What if there is A law of destiny in our reality?

A measurement that would allow folks to forsee the End? Comparable to a strategy (video)game where it's game over as soon certain things happen.

For example: a poor guy was never meant to become rich within a short period of time and vice versa, or a famous athlete gets seriously injured or a serious civil/real war breaks out. When these things occur to a high % of the worlds population simultaneously maybe thats it?

a reply to: Eagleyedobserver

God will eventually become boored with pursuing gradually more and more mundane experiences. By Itself. through us (as Its acting definers/definition of Itself) what else can the human perform for It to experience? We have arrived at the pinacle of siliness; no more grandiose wars or noble herioc pursuits, no more great writers or exploratory accomplishmens. This is time of mediocraty, forget about wondering who in the villiage is going to be successful in acquiring a deer for dinner, we wonder about dryer lint catching fire and burning the house down.

a reply to: Eagleyedobserver

Destiny and free will are the same thing.

a reply to: purplemer

Once you jump off a cliff, it is your destiny to hit the ground. The jump is the free will part.

originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: Eagleyedobserver
Destiny and free will are the same thing.

Yes, because you planned/scripted this lifetime it is of your own free will and destiny (a corriagraphed event).

originally posted by: Eagleyedobserver
When these things occur to a high % of the worlds population simultaneously maybe thats it?

Take it one step further where every soul agreed with God who merrily designed their "life story".

Then the soul got born, mind wiped and grows up experiencing multiple "coincidences" that makes them think, "What if I agreed with God concerning me having a life path that will eventually lead my spirit back to His Everlasting Love".

Ever wondered why the World is now full of cynics ? Cynics are so damn cynical, they can see right through the bull-# that the global elitists throw down their throats everyday.

Get ready for Stage 2 where many mortals have lived certain paths that have now trained them to step into a Spiritual battle arena. Those people might very well have walked certain paths to get them ready to fight alongside the immortals (angels, demons, watchers, others) that are about to become visible to the naked eye.

Take films like "Bright" where the public is being groomed to accept these "immortals".

Or, maybe we all descended from Heaven into Hell, got given a life path to experience what hell consists of 24/7. Then once experienced we die and if we learned that God is good then its back to Heaven. If not, then next time lucky via reincarnation.

The Bible’s Viewpoint

Is Your Life Predestined?

... “Maybe it was fate,” said a newspaper report of the incident.

MANY people feel that whatever happens to them, good or bad, has been decided by a force greater than themselves. For example, the 16th-century Reformer John Calvin wrote: “We define predestination as the eternal design of God, whereby he determined what he wanted to do with each man. For he did not create them all in the same condition, but foreordains some to everlasting life and others to eternal damnation.”

Does God really ordain ahead of time what our actions and our final destiny are going to be? What does the Bible teach?

The “Logic” of Predestination

Some who believe in predestination reason basically as follows: God is omniscient. He knows everything, even what is going to happen in the future. He knows what each person is going to do with his life, and he already knows the exact moment and manner of each person’s death. So, according to their thinking, when the time comes for an individual to make a decision, his choice cannot be other than the way God has foreseen and foreordained it; otherwise, God would not be all-knowing. Does this reasoning seem sound to you? Consider what its logical consequences would be.

If some force has already determined your future, then trying to take care of yourself is useless. Choosing to smoke or not to smoke would make no difference to your health or that of your children. Wearing a seat belt while riding in an automobile would have no effect on your safety. But this is faulty logic. Statistics show that people who take precautions suffer fewer fatal consequences. Carelessness can result in tragedy.

Consider another line of reasoning. If God chooses to foreknow everything, then even before he made Adam and Eve, he would have known that they would disobey him. But when God told Adam that he must not eat from “the tree of the knowledge of good and bad” or he would die, did God already know that Adam would eat from it? (Genesis 2:16, 17) When God told the first couple: “Be fruitful and become many and fill the earth and subdue it, and have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and every living creature that is moving upon the earth,” did he know that their wonderful prospect of life in a paradise was doomed to failure? Of course not.​—Genesis 1:28.

Taken to its logical conclusion, the idea that God foreknows all decisions would mean that he is responsible for all that happens​—including wars, injustices, and suffering. Is that possible? A clear answer is provided by what God says about himself.

“You Must Choose”

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Not to mention that to paint God as responsible for the things mentioned at the end there is the standard M.O. of the critics of God and the Bible. So that's why the teaching of predestination (or destiny) is so popular in this system of things ruled over by the chief slanderer of God and His word (the Bible). Devil = The descriptive name of Satan in the Christian Greek Scriptures, which means “Slanderer.”

Oh, source was: Is Your Life Predestined? Awake!—2007

Be careful what you wish for, it might come true and then some.

Free will vs casuality?

a reply to: Specimen

Another way of phrasing it - carefully wish for things that help you grow, not bog you down in further attachments.

Causality in my limited understanding does not preclude free will or the power to change your set of circumstances. You are after all the designer of your Universe.

a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

Nether does predestination, tarot cards, nor god for that matter, even though we can apparently choose one and have them at odds.


I find usually it ether become a product of the environment, or make the environment a product. If a tree falls in the wood an no one's around, does it still make a sound? A boring skeptic would say yes of course, while the blind believer would doubt it.

It is what you choose to do right now, today, and every single day hereafter that determines your future destiny.

Being able to forgive yourself and others for the past can help in doing that.

Continuing to do wrong unto yourself and others will cause your destiny to be a failed destiny.

Watching the actions of current political parties illustrates perfectly what an ongoing FAILED destiny looks like.

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
It is what you choose to do right now, today, and every single day hereafter that determines your future destiny.

Continuing to do wrong unto yourself and others will cause your destiny to be a failed destiny.

Watching the actions of current political parties illustrates perfectly what an ongoing FAILED destiny looks like.

According to some theorists out there, a persons attitude towards others will determine what reality they will fall into. So grumpy people fall into gloomy realities. Optimistic, give everything to others for free spirits step into better realities where the Universe will test them even more.

"Continuing to do wrong unto yourself and others will cause your destiny to be a failed destiny."

Not a failed destiny; just simply a "failed to learn the basics" destiny. Simply give everything to others for free and slowly reap the spiritual benefits of ones actions.

It is what you choose to do right now, today, and every single day hereafter that determines your future destiny.

Problem: If ones future depends upon what they do today; when will their actions actually be judged ? A persons future can drag on for years if not decades without them dying and being judged.

However, certain politicians are very successful right now because they are doing exactly what Lucifer and YAHUSHUA wants / allows them to do.
Lucifer wants them to do certain actions like NWO etc and GOD allows them to do it because the event is written onto His Word and they haven't even realized it yet.

The successful politicians (Trump) are following the Bible word for word. That is why they are still in power. The ones who are destined to fail are following His Word that states that All Truths will be Known in the End of Days. Hence their corruption will be known (Hillary Klington).

a reply to: Specimen

hmmm a thoughtful response -

a reply to: Rapha

The successful politicians (Trump) are following the Bible word for word.

Only insomuch as the perception of Trumps actions affirms your worldview.

Could you in retrospect say the same about Bush when he said its gods mandate that they go in and attack Iraq?

Funny thing in my mind is that nothing really changes after 10,000 years. Civilizations come and go.

The "redeemer" is a common theme in many eschatologies.

What if nothing really changes - just a new religion comes along to replace the old, old gods renamed, new cults formed....and yet below the surface.....this existence is still a slave planet....ruled by a demiurge.

Why aren't we allowed to remember the old civs? Why does the planet keep getting reset? Why is it so difficult to escape this Matrix?

originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
Only insomuch as the perception of Trumps actions affirms your worldview.

Could you in retrospect say the same about Bush when he said its gods mandate that they go in and attack Iraq?

Funny thing in my mind is that nothing really changes after 10,000 years. Civilizations come and go.

The "redeemer" is a common theme in many eschatologies.

What if nothing really changes - just a new religion comes along to replace the old, old gods renamed, new cults formed....and yet below the surface.....this existence is still a slave planet....ruled by a demiurge.

Why aren't we allowed to remember the old civs? Why does the planet keep getting reset? Why is it so difficult to escape this Matrix?

The planet seems to reset just before the military has some weapon that can shoot beyond this dark universe into Gods head.
Then God takes appropriate action with another reset.

If God’s power is proportional to the quantity of its believers then a reset is due very soon, due to the “falling away “ of his believers.

I agree that Bush was no different. Politicians are nothing more than sh1tty cogs in the Matrix

Can’t escape the matrix because it feeds off negativity just like a demon does. Just stamp “terrorist” on the Matrix’s forehead and every thing becomes very predictable

originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
Why aren't we allowed to remember the old civs? Why does the planet keep getting reset? Why is it so difficult to escape this Matrix?

I sometimes think this existence is like a waiting room, like at a doctor's office or bus station. We don't know really know what we're waiting for or why but people come and go (talking of Michelangelo) and every now and then somebody calls out a number.

a reply to: Rapha

I'll repeat this again

Only insomuch as the perception of Trumps actions affirms your worldview.

There is no proof that Trump is any different than any other Globalist.

Using the name "god" and viewing it through a Christians perspective doesn't change the fact that Christianity is the old Roman Empire updated to version 2.

originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
I'll repeat this again

Only insomuch as the perception of Trumps actions affirms your worldview.

There is no proof that Trump is any different than any other Globalist.

Using the name "god" and viewing it through a Christians perspective doesn't change the fact that Christianity is the old Roman Empire updated to version 2.

i agree with your analysis concerning Trump. Maybe his Wall is verification that he is the "Donald" that builds the wall to keep Americans in America, as shown with DONALD Sutherland in the film "Hunger Games".

If you are right about Christianity being the old Roman Empire then there will be no Rapture as all Christians are, again, part of the system. They are under control by the Roman Empire via catholicism. If Jesus is the "Get out of Jail Free" card then a few people will soon vanish without any explanation and return in 7 years after "the Event". If Jesus is part of the system then there will be no Rapture.

a reply to: Rapha

Thats a lot of ifs and the whether the rapture is even valid theology is spurious.

A Hunger games scenario is highly possible given a global economic crash whilst the Elite are safe behind their taxpayer funded enclaves.

Freewill can be examined like anything else..

The very notion of freewill is an abstraction...

Concrete is what we are doing (our karma) and what we believe is both abstract and concrete..

Abstract experience is objective necesarily.. and I'm going to prove it to you..

Because abstraction is a point of view..

The very theory of observation is abstract..

Well we know observation takes place.. but what is it? Is it like a lens, ala matter?

Well we know it's something but how does it exist?

Isn't observation so abstract that it can be called an equal to nothing?

Knots are like buildings; they exist!

Each knot.. or otherwise measurment frame.. happens as a view of matter...

We have the ability to measure our observations..via sentience..

But I think with a cuff and a foul.. which I say with some chagrin..that the observation itself from the observer can't be pinned down..

This equates to the idea of freewill.. which is abstract just like observation is..