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Originally posted by Off_The_Street
Why not let me choose what school I want my kid to go to -- and you choose what school you want your kid to go to?
Originally posted by Off_The_Street
It’s pretty obvious that the government-monopoly schools have failed. The amount of taxpayer money thrown at the monopoly schools doesn’t seem to make much difference; DC has the highest per-student spending in the United States, but, compared to the other states, the second-worst schools in the nation.
Originally posted by Off_The_Street
Competition results in better quality for less money.
Originally posted by Off_The_Street
Besides, there’re two ways that every kid in the country can afford the school of his choice One way would be tax credits to people who pay taxes, and assignable tax credits to businesses to provide to the people who don’t qualify for tax credits. Another way would be tax credits to the taxpayers and cash grants to any other parent for the same amount as the tax credits.
Originally posted by Off_The_Street
Yet the parents, who are the ones both legally and morally responsible for their children, should have the right to choose whether they want their kid to go to a school with uniforms, strict discipline (or not); a religious education (or not); heavy science and math instruction (or not); lots of art and sports (or not), and so on.
Originally posted by Off_The_Street
It’s that freedom that the monopolists want to steal from you, and the future they want to steal from your children.
Originally posted by namehere
(edit by Libra to account for context: Equipment for the physically handicapped is...)
...not possible unless every special programs and devices are made cheap, even the most basic ones are so expensive the schools cant supply it to all who need it
Originally posted by namehere
plus not everyone disabled can use touch screens, many need things that work by eye movement, voice activation, etc which cost thousands, plus thousands for computers to operate them, print work, etc.
Originally posted by namehere
not to mention the high speed connections needed to broadcast to schools, the servers, etc...
Originally posted by namehere
you dont understand how expensive things are for disabled, even a manual wheel chair or hospital bed can cost 600 to 1000 dollars, heck combined my 2 wheel chairs was 25000 dollars, supply and demand are what makes things for us so expensive, you should understand special ed cznt be discarded, many cant be treated as everyone else especially ones who cant communicate as fast due to ms, cp, md, als, etc.
Originally posted by krissyinokc
I believe the main problem of the failing public school system in America has to do directly with the parents and their involvement (or lack of). Myself, I homeschool my 11 year-old son. I believe I can do a better job than strangers that control my son's education, and thus, future.
Originally posted by Off_The_Street
I'd agree with you one hundred percent, libra, if the government-monopoly schools had those same standards and resource placement that we both yearn for.
But they don't.
Originally posted by Off_The_Street
Schools vary from district to district, and will continue to do so, as long as the demographic of a particluar location differs from another. And we both know they always will.
Originally posted by Off_The_Street
That's assuming that only Catholic kids will got to a Catholic school, etc. but I don't think that's the case. Here in Arizona, where we have charters and will probably be the first state to provide either a tax-credit or voucher program, we already have a lot of parents who live next to a government-monopoly school who pay to send their kids a half-mile to Our Lady of the Quadratic Equation.
Originally posted by thelibra
Screening teachers is indeed going to be neccesary. What I hope to accomplish is a highschool that operates a lot more like a college, where one's curriculum stacks over time, and students can focus on a few general paths or, if approved, a custom path.
Originally posted by soficrow
The current kafuffle is more about about 'appropriate indoctrination' of the lower classes.
Originally posted by thelibra
Levels of mastery could be achieved as soon as the student displays sufficient skill in that area in front of a panel of instructors of that field....
Originally posted by krissyinokc
I believe the main problem of the failing public school system in America has to do directly with the parents and their involvement (or lack of).
Originally posted by Off_The_Street
However, although you're fortunate to have the time and the will to teach your kid, many other people simplay aren't able to do so. For example, the single parent needs to feed and house her kids. Another parent might simply not have the patience or the communication skills to teach their kid(s) at all.
Originally posted by thelibra
I'd even go so far as to say the curriculum textbooks need to be slimmed down to the point where they are unified, across the state,
Originally posted by thelibra
As for religious teaching, I stand by my statement: If they want their kids to get a religious education, they can take them to the Church, or Temple, or Mosque, or Shrine, or wherever they hold dear for religious practices. I believe firmly in the separation of church and state, and tax money should not go to fund someone else's religion.
Originally posted by soficrow
Good post. ditto what RANT said.
...IMO - Public education is the cornerstone of democracy. And like everything else democratic, it's under attack and in danger of being destroyed.
...We're dealing with a backdoor quota system - certain kinds of kids from certain kinds of families are chosen to be educated as managers and professionals. The rest are left to sink or swim, and make their own way. ...The current kafuffle is more about about 'appropriate indoctrination' of the lower classes.
A broad and general education is essential IMO. Change the presentation, don't censor the knowledge.
...My pet peeve: 'Special education' encompasses disabled kids needs and advanced kids needs in many states. ...Disabled kids needs are very costly - and the plug has been pulled on the whole program. Dumb. ...The $$$ for disabled special needs should come from a different pot entirely - and advanced kids need the programs.
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Originally posted by MemoryShock
I'm pretty much done with people suggesting that corporeal punishment is the answer........
To educate through fear is to essentially raise for subservience.
Originally posted by MemoryShock
To educate through respect and collaboration is to raise for critical thought and socially minded interaction.
Originally posted by MemoryShock
the problem with the second, more idealistic approach is the social dynamic inherent in any social 'cosm'......individuals are going to slip under the radar and others will be favored due to their case specific adherences.
Originally posted by MemoryShock
For all y'all who think resorting to physical violence is an answer........
I'll be back with supporting links if you really want to argue.......