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originally posted by: olaru12
originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: watchitburn
What about chicks with silicone breasts?
or chicks with bonespurs...
originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
Not very good because you seem to think that gender is the same as biologically assigned sex.
originally posted by: Xtrozero
originally posted by: Wayfarer
It would take a real despicable coward to get out of military service because of bone spurs.
How many years did you serve. I forget...
originally posted by: Xtrozero
originally posted by: Wayfarer
It would take a real despicable coward to get out of military service because of bone spurs.
How many years did you serve. I forget...
originally posted by: Wayfarer
How about you?
I think that the reality of this decision is that it's been done much more to appease Trumps base of support rather than because of insurmountable problems that go with individuals with gender dysmorphia serving in the military.
originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan
I know several men who are Vietnam vets. Not a single one of them would hold a grudge against anybody who didn't want to go there. They all say that their experiences in Vietnam were horrible.
originally posted by: Xtrozero
originally posted by: Wayfarer
How about you?
Your venomous view is not one the vast majority of those who have served would agree with not to mention we are talking 50 years ago.
originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin
Thank you for the post, I can tell you put a lot of thought into it.
I saw you raised the issue of equality, and this is another tricky part to the situation.... No one has the right to serve in the military, you have to be accepted.
I know that may be callus, but it is part of the discussion. We do have to remember that it's life or death once in (for many of the soldiers).
originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
originally posted by: Xtrozero
originally posted by: CriticalStinker
I'm torn on this one personally. I get why some people would have concerns of people going through hormone treatment to be in compromising situations where lives are at stake, but I also understand someone courageous enough to volunteer wanting to serve.
The deal is there are a lot of conditions that prevent people from serving. One of my sons is 90% blind in one eye and he can't join, so he is going to be a electrical engineer... You can't be over weight, can't have medical issues, even some small ones, so on and so on.
Hell I'm not sure if you can still not join if you have flat feet as it was in the past, so the point is not everyone fits the mold of that they want, and transgenders have a lot going on that fits many categories of conditions the military will not accept.
That though is because you are unable to meet the standards or have a health condition that limits you're effectiveness.
So for example you might say you can't join because you're blind in one eye...you can't shoot, you need to be able to shoot to join up. You're fat, so you can't meet the physical requirements, you have high blood pressure, well you might stroke on the battlefield and so on. I mean we could get into the "ahhh but what about this exemption" debate and go round in circles all day but the point right now is about individuals with gender dysmorphia
Simply put there is nothing that physically makes anyone who is transgender unable to preform the roles of a solider.