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Which time was Michael Cohen telling the truth?

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posted on Dec, 14 2018 @ 01:41 PM
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I'm not certain that he's telling the truth in any situations.

The problem is, when people are being investigated who are shady (and let's not kid ourselves...Cohen is shady), their tendency is to lie to protect themselves. It's a self-preservation instinct that most people have.

So, I would argue that Cohen lied from the start, both to protect himself and possibly Trump from any perceived illegal activity (whether or not it actually is illegal is irrelevant in my consideration). That would be the 'taking a bullet for Trump' mentality. Plus, why bite the hand that feeds you when you might not have to?

Now, Cohen is throat deep in federal-prosecutor sh*t, and the same instinct is being applied here (self preservation). The difference now is that the hand that can feed him is the federal government, and that entity is wanting certain types of information for an end goal that has been stated numerous times (not by the NY US-Attorneys' office, but by the hunt against Trump from the start, which is a federal process).

Cohen, being a shady character, is probably willing to claim anything and everything that is advantageous to him via a plea deal, which includes a hopeful sentence of 0-6 months of prison time (which is nothing for what he pleaded guilty to). The problem is whether or not there is backing hard evidence to substantiate the claims from Cohen, and we don't know anything about that evidence yet.

My point in all of that rambling is that you can never really trust anyone who changes their story as much as Cohen and these other people who are falling victim to the obtusely focused Mueller special council...unless there is associated evidence.

And even then, some of the claims are meant to sound like illegal activity, but may not be, even if there's evidence.




posted on Dec, 14 2018 @ 02:07 PM
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Interesting development



Judge in Flynn case orders Mueller to turn over interview docs after bombshell claim of FBI pressure


wow

www.foxnews.com...
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posted on Dec, 14 2018 @ 02:13 PM
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originally posted by: Aallanon
Interesting development



Judge in Flynn case orders Mueller to turn over interview docs after bombshell claim of FBI pressure


wow

www.foxnews.com...

Flynn is going to get his case overturned looks like Mueller lied to him. And worse tricked him into an interview. Even the agents that did the initial report thought he was honest about it. Wasn't until struck rewrote the report 6 months later that suddenly he lied.

I think Mueller has been decieved by several people he counted on to do there jobs.
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posted on Dec, 14 2018 @ 02:47 PM
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Flynn is going to get his case overturned looks like Mueller lied to him.
Really? Muellar was not involved with the interview in which Flynn lied.



Even the agents that did the initial report thought he was honest about it.

That's sort of what the Nunes' intel report said that McCabe said.

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posted on Dec, 14 2018 @ 02:58 PM
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now you don't have to speculate,
www.thegatewaypundit.com... ynn-was-lying/



BREAKING: Mueller Filing Confirms General Flynn Was Set Up – Agents DID NOT Believe Flynn Was Lying




The Special Counsel responded Friday by defending the circumstances behind the Flynn ambush interview, claiming Flynn tried to “minimize” what he did — this is a flat out lie.



posted on Dec, 14 2018 @ 03:05 PM
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now you don't have to speculate,
I don't take headlines from the gatewaypundit at face value.



posted on Dec, 14 2018 @ 03:17 PM
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a reply to: Phage

Hold on I'll try to find an CNN or Huffpo link. LOL
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posted on Dec, 14 2018 @ 03:20 PM
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a reply to: Aallanon

If you're talking about what the Nunes memo said about what McCabe said, I'm quite aware of that.



posted on Dec, 14 2018 @ 03:26 PM
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nope, you have to look at the

GATEWAY PUNDIT to find out. Gasp, the horror!!

Can you do it?



posted on Dec, 14 2018 @ 03:26 PM
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a reply to: Phage


nope, you have to look at the

GATEWAY PUNDIT to find out. Gasp, the horror!!

Can you do it?



posted on Dec, 14 2018 @ 03:27 PM
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To find out what?

And what does it have to do with your OP?



posted on Dec, 14 2018 @ 03:33 PM
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a reply to: Phage

Flynn was pressured/ threatened just like Corsi and Cohen.

Cohen just cracked or took the easy money however you wanna look at it.



posted on Dec, 14 2018 @ 03:37 PM
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Flynn was pressured/ threatened just like Corsi and Cohen.

According to whom? His filing doesn't say that. He lied. He admitted it. Because he cooperated with the investigation, Muellar recommended leniency in sentencing.

www.lawfareblog.com...



posted on Dec, 14 2018 @ 03:42 PM
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FBI Pressured Flynn to Not Have Lawyer Present During Interview

menrec.com...



Gen. Michael Flynn didn’t cut a deal with U.S. Special Counsel Robert Mueller because he was necessarily guilty of lying to the FBI, or any crimes, according to sources close to the retired general. Flynn was muscled and coerced into a plea deal, several sources said. Flynn plead guilty after Mueller threatened Flynn’s family, including his son Michael Jr. According to sources close to Flynn family, Mueller threatened Flynn on multiple occasions that if he did not plead guilty to lying to the FBI, Mueller would investigate other Flynn family members.

truepundit.com...

I love the pundits!



posted on Dec, 14 2018 @ 03:47 PM
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He's not reliable. He's a confirmed liar. He's doing so in order to save his own hide, and likely his family's


Interesting thing to say in defense of Donald Trump.





posted on Dec, 14 2018 @ 03:48 PM
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Is everything you read true and everything I read a lie?

What if we both read the same thing?

Some sort of temporal divergence I'm guessing.



posted on Dec, 14 2018 @ 03:50 PM
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Unnamed sources?

I thought that was a no no.



posted on Dec, 14 2018 @ 03:54 PM
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He's not reliable. He's a confirmed liar.


Are you talking about the President of the United States here?



posted on Dec, 14 2018 @ 07:58 PM
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Newsflash - all politicians lie.

Does that make you feel better??

Now, who’s been convicted, in part, for lying to the FBI?? Does that clear it up for you? Good!

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posted on Dec, 14 2018 @ 07:59 PM
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Now, who’s been convicted of lying to the FBI?? Does that clear it up for you?

Flynn.

And more on topic, Cohen. But that was for lying to Congress, actually.


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