Breaking, shots fired in Strasbourg, France

originally posted by: shooterbrody

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: Wide-Eyes
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

The Telegraph:

"Stay calm and follow the orders that will be given. Advising people to consult official accounts to stay informed," wrote the Prefet de la la Grande Est et du Bas Rhin.

The prefecture put the latest toll at one dead and 10 injured. 

According to France Info, a man "opened fired on the crowd with an automatic weapon" in the Grand'Rue sector of Strasbourg's centre. According to the mayor, Roland Ries, the gunman has not been caught and he has advised people to come indoors.

The Telegraph

Automatic weapon used...

Aren't those banned in France?

They are banned all across Europe aren't they?
Senseless loss of life.

So where did the gunman get an automatic weapon? Don't tell me gun control laws failed. Again.

a reply to: face23785

Do they have 3d printers there?

originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: Wide-Eyes
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

The Telegraph:

"Stay calm and follow the orders that will be given. Advising people to consult official accounts to stay informed," wrote the Prefet de la la Grande Est et du Bas Rhin.

The prefecture put the latest toll at one dead and 10 injured. 

According to France Info, a man "opened fired on the crowd with an automatic weapon" in the Grand'Rue sector of Strasbourg's centre. According to the mayor, Roland Ries, the gunman has not been caught and he has advised people to come indoors.

The Telegraph

Automatic weapon used...

Translating the newsspeak "opened fire on a crowd of innocent people with a scary black semi-automatic rifle, that he fired so fast (like 1000 rounds per-minute fast) it should be illegal, weapon".

Gotta ramp up the scary rhetoric immediately before the true facts come out ans the retraction ends up in a tweet that nobody is subscribed to later.

That is not the agenda here. We aren't even allowed semi-auto. Bolt action only.

a reply to: shooterbrody

Nobody can 3D print a full auto rifle.

What a coincidence, France having all this rebellion and all of a sudden a terrorist attack.

Maybe this will quell the protests.

Maybe that's just what they want?

So maybe it ain't a coincidence?

a reply to: Wide-Eyes

Lots of YouTube videos that claim otherwise

a reply to: Willtell

When you have a president that has a very low rating supposedly what do ya do?
1.Start a war with Russia? Stage a small Naval ambush and withdraw? or
2.Stage a false flag to boost nonsense of unity and boost up the ratings?

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: Wide-Eyes

Lots of YouTube videos that claim otherwise

Link one.

originally posted by: AtlasHawk
a reply to: Willtell

When you have a president that has a very low rating supposedly what do ya do?

1.Start a war with Russia? Stage a small Naval ambush and withdraw? or
2.Stage a false flag to boost nonsense of unity and boost up the ratings?

If anything won't this just make the protesters even more pissed at Macron?

originally posted by: Wide-Eyes
Automatic weapon, where did the shooter acquire that?

That question will never be answered; that is for sure.

So we got the aloha snackbar sighting.....
www.foxnews.com...

Before he opened fire on a crowded Christmas market in Strasbourg, France on Tuesday, 29-year-old Cherif Chekatt yelled "Allahu Akbar," Paris' public prosecutor said Wednesday

A wide-scale manhunt was underway near Strasbourg as the French government raised the security level and sent police reinforcements to the city, located about 305 miles east of Paris. But a top French official admitted Chekatt may no longer be in the city and could have slipped through the police dragnet into neighboring Germany, where he'd spent time in prison.

Nunez said Chekatt had been radicalized in prison and was being monitored by French intelligence services since at least 2015 due to his suspected religious extremism. Authorities did not say which religion; however, supporters of the Islamic State terror group were celebrating the shooting online, according to the U.S.-based SITE Intelligence group, which monitors jihadi communications worldwide.

be careful out there.

Says you. Please proved a source for your claim of bolt action only. And the specific laws regarding that restriction.

Thanks.

originally posted by: Krakatoa
Says you. Please proved a source for your claim of bolt action only. And the specific laws regarding that restriction.

Thanks.

My mistake. Seems French gun laws are a lot more relaxed than the UK's.
Please pardon my ignorance.

I was just listening to a commentator on the Figaro website that said that during the last confrontation with the police, when Chekatt was killed, he was shooting at police with a revolver from the 1890s.

The short clip from the interview, in French, is at the following link:

video.lefigaro.fr...

www.theguardian.com...

“When the individual turned and shot at the police, they immediately returned fire and neutralised the assailant,” Castaner said. Police said none of their officers had been injured in the exchange. They said Chekatt’s weapon was an 8mm ordnance revolver, an old weapon, and that the officers who shot him were neighbourhood police, not firearms specialists.

I think this is the gun, from 1892.



This guy doesn't really add up, to me. He has a very long criminal record, something like 27 convictions. The police raid his house the morning of the attack. Police know all about him. He has the police "S" tag on his file, meaning national security risk, i.e., potential terrorist. They find weapons during the raid, but he isn't there. The raid relates to a murder attempt on someone. The police put out an alert for him. They don't pick him up. He goes to the Christmas market and shoots the place up (with an automatic pistol). He takes a cab to Neudorf neighborhood, gets out after bragging to the cabbie about shooting 10 people. He exchanges gunfire with police and disappears for 24 hours. He reappears on the street in the same neighborhood, after French police have been combing the border crossings with Germany. Police in the neighborhood are alerted to his presence by a woman who thinks he looks like the shooter. They confront him. He opens fire on them with an antique revolver and they shoot him dead.

No. I'm not joking.

a reply to: ipsedixit

I thought this person had an automatic weapon?

a reply to: shooterbrody

I did too. I wonder if he started with one but overnight dropped it off somewhere and then left in the morning with the old revolver.

All the early accounts refer to an "automatic pistol", which is what one would expect in this kind of scenario. The revolver he had when he was shot to death only holds six rounds. It never would have done, in the events as reported. It raises the question of whether the man shot by police and killed was the same one who shot up the market and exchanged fire with police on two occasions, before disappearing overnight.

This reads like a classic patsy setup.

State sponsored terrorism anyone?

a reply to: ipsedixit

This event is probably related to the "yellow vest" protests and demonstrations that have caused so much trouble for the Macron government lately, as a result of his austerity policies.

Somebody decided that the (ha ha ha) "forces of order" needed a breather from insurrection in the streets.

In the old days Napoleon would have given the yellow vest protesters a "whiff of grapeshot", but nowadays they get the DGSE (Directorate-General for External Security) to shoot up the pedestrian mall for them and then blame it on one of those Allahu Akbar types.

Macron winds up looking like a hero instead of an austerity ghoul who has created chaos in France.

Mangnifique!! Bien joué mon président! Formidable!!!

Satire:

Well, the verdict is in. It was State Sponsored Terrorism.

How do I know?

Simple. I went to the Le Figaro website (right of center French daily) and had to scroll down through the headlines of 39 stories, including sports stories, recipes, Miss France features, the auction price for a first edition of Proust's Du Coté de Chez Swann, until I found a story about the shooting in Strasbourg, and even then it was a puff piece about the brilliant security services who have always managed to arrive just after the nick of too late to do anything to protect the public.

Not one pertinent question or detail about what happened to the automatic pistol shooter who exchanged fire with police before disappearing overnight only to be replaced with an antique revolver shooter the next morning, who was quickly shot dead by neighborhood flatfeet.

Fortunately the yellow vest protesters didn't bat an eye, didn't stop their demonstrations and didn't get all solemn and weepy in solidarity with the "forces of order" the dopey French bourgeoisie and their austerity ghoul president.

Working people in France have learned by now that state sponsored terrorism is like the cherry on top of the austerity sundae. They take it for granted.