Close range UFO sighting, missing time?

a reply to: saltlick


I know your pain of wanting to know. I was so upset when I found out Dr John Mack passed; I was hoping to get some sessions with him.

I can tell you this much, my experience has haunted me for 41 years, and I would NEVER go to that place again.

You are not alone and I hope someday we all get some answers.

a reply to: saltlick

I think I’ll believe you...

And regression does work if you are truly willing, just know it can open a whole other can of worms...
And with each new piece of information or memory recalled, you will end up with even more questions...
I believe it’s worth it for you to undergo, of course that decision can be yours alone...

originally posted by: ConfusedBrit

originally posted by: saltlick

The missing time reference is because there is a difference between what i told MUFON when i was being interviewed 8 years ago to today. When i look back at the event now, i see us alone. No other cars around at all. So i asked my wife does she remember this happening with traffic? Or no cars? She says with confidence there were no one else around. I feel the same way. So why did i report this 8 years ago that there was traffic all around me? My kid was 7 at the time, and was sitting in the back seat. On the way home that night i asked him what he saw, he said he saw a big bright light. Not much more. Yes, i am talking about hypnotic regression, although im not sure i believe that stuff works.

My first instinct is to warn you to be very cautious about attempting hypnotic regression. Not necessarily because of the authenticity or INauthenticity of such an approach, rather the fact that your 7-year-old child was in the car.

If the session reveals that all THREE of you were abducted, how would that affect you psychologically if you do believe the regression is accurate?

Then again, since your child is 15-16-years-old NOW, have you asked him directly what he thinks of such an option?

Thanks for posting a fascinating experience, by the way. Star & Flag.

This is something i actually never thought about, and i think your right. Why in gods name would i want to recall something that happened that was traumatizing which it could very well be. All i would do is feel guilty that my kid got involved and how it messed up the whole family. Thanks for this suggestion. Im not one to usually stick my head in the sand, but at my age i think this might be one thing i dont want to uncover.

originally posted by: KTemplar
a reply to: saltlick


I know your pain of wanting to know. I was so upset when I found out Dr John Mack passed; I was hoping to get some sessions with him.

I can tell you this much, my experience has haunted me for 41 years, and I would NEVER go to that place again.

You are not alone and I hope someday we all get some answers.

It is strange how where it happened almost seems like a crime scene, and is to this day someplace that i try to avoid if at all possible. Not what i envisioned at all, it is unfortunate.

originally posted by: 5StarOracle
a reply to: saltlick

I think I’ll believe you...

And regression does work if you are truly willing, just know it can open a whole other can of worms...
And with each new piece of information or memory recalled, you will end up with even more questions...
I believe it’s worth it for you to undergo, of course that decision can be yours alone...

yeah the more i think about it, the more i dont lol.

Well i actually got more out of this than i thought, i think the best suggestion ive heard is to just let it go. It is unfortunate though, i have always believed in UFOs and the one time i actually see one close up, it scares the crap out of me to a level i didn't know existed.

I dont know if an abduction happened, i am grateful that my wife was with me, she is a very black and white type of thinker and a skeptic and even she said yep, we saw a UFO. I mean, theres no way around it when it almost crashes into your car then just sits there right in front of you. That keeps me at least knowing that im not going crazy or seeing things. She would have never believed me if she wasn't there.

By the way, no noise occurred at the time (like all the other reports of close up sightings) for what its worth i dont even know if it was from another planet. Could very well be it was something we have and we just dont know about it. The only thing that makes me think it wasn't is the horrible feeling i had of being watched at the time, or stalked i guess. Kinda felt like they were the lion and i was the gazelle. Very bad feeling indeed. Thanks again for everyone's reply's!

originally posted by: mczinger
a reply to: saltlick

ya i didnt feel the fear you did, the ball of light my uncle and i seen a few years ago on a fall night in nova scotia was a good few km's away and up it seemed, sat there for 30 seconds or so after we noticed it then ZIP! off north and up into the sky, gone

Cool...what color was the ball of light?

a reply to: saltlick

Can you link to the original report on MUFON?

Memory is a funny thing. It becomes crystallised from replay but also adds and removes details. It's far from perfect.

Your original account is likely to be far more accurate.

a reply to: saltlick

Well i actually got more out of this than i thought, i think the best suggestion ive heard is to just let it go. It is unfortunate though, i have always believed in UFOs and the one time i actually see one close up, it scares the crap out of me to a level i didn't know existed.

Yes the truth in my opinion is scarier than aliens and the truth is we interact with them everyday.

One little detail about how what you told Mufon is different to what you recall now.

ConfusedBrit isnt as confused as their name indicates.

Hypnotic regression is something you need to speak to professionals about and never take any advice from conspiracy sites.

Get a referral from a general practitioner, doctor, for a specialist in psychology that can give you good information on how bad hypnotic regression is to try remembering traumatic events and how hypnosis, if the subject is susceptible can be lead to do or say just about anything, like, say there was a lot of traffic around when there wasn't.

after years go by the program or triggers wears off so in this case you remember what you said but remember that was not actually what you remember and wonder why you said that to MUFON.

Could very well be it was something we have and we just dont know about it.

Or we do


and those that do, could have made great efforts to create a cover story for illegal human experimentation which has become so wide spread that its basically as big as some religions and has believers that have identical thinking to many religious people.

What I suggest here gets some so angered that it just further solidifies my conclusions on certain parts of my ideas about UFOs and the alien abduction phenomena.

originally posted by: ManInAsia
a reply to: saltlick

Can you link to the original report on MUFON?

Memory is a funny thing. It becomes crystallised from replay but also adds and removes details. It's far from perfect.

Your original account is likely to be far more accurate.

www.oregonmufon.com...

originally posted by: ManInAsia
a reply to: saltlick

Can you link to the original report on MUFON?

Memory is a funny thing. It becomes crystallised from replay but also adds and removes details. It's far from perfect.

Your original account is likely to be far more accurate.

I would agree with you except in this circumstance my wife had the same experience i did, and remembers there being 0 traffic. I did not lead her, i simply asked her when it happened, does she remember there being other cars around or were we alone? She said alone, which is what i clearly remember as well. I was the one that reported it to MUFON, and was surprised when i read their report which stated there was alot of cars around at the time. Also in the report i said it was a 2 minute sighting? It seems alot longer than that to my wife and I now.

I think the strangest thing about all this was seeing my wife brace for impact, then things get jumbled in my mind as to what happened next (and this is true for my wife as well at that point) then just a memory of the craft hovering above in the trees as we watched it very slowly float away. Seeing the horrified look on my wifes face and see her push herself back into her seat and put her hands up and the car fill up with light then nothing but jumbled flashes, pictures and thoughts.

originally posted by: InhaleExhale
a reply to: saltlick

Well i actually got more out of this than i thought, i think the best suggestion ive heard is to just let it go. It is unfortunate though, i have always believed in UFOs and the one time i actually see one close up, it scares the crap out of me to a level i didn't know existed.

Yes the truth in my opinion is scarier than aliens and the truth is we interact with them everyday.

One little detail about how what you told Mufon is different to what you recall now.

ConfusedBrit isnt as confused as their name indicates.

Hypnotic regression is something you need to speak to professionals about and never take any advice from conspiracy sites.

Get a referral from a general practitioner, doctor, for a specialist in psychology that can give you good information on how bad hypnotic regression is to try remembering traumatic events and how hypnosis, if the subject is susceptible can be lead to do or say just about anything, like, say there was a lot of traffic around when there wasn't.

after years go by the program or triggers wears off so in this case you remember what you said but remember that was not actually what you remember and wonder why you said that to MUFON.

Could very well be it was something we have and we just dont know about it.

Or we do


and those that do, could have made great efforts to create a cover story for illegal human experimentation which has become so wide spread that its basically as big as some religions and has believers that have identical thinking to many religious people.

What I suggest here gets some so angered that it just further solidifies my conclusions on certain parts of my ideas about UFOs and the alien abduction phenomena.

I wouldnt doubt anything at this point. The Mufon investigators were also baffled how there could be heavy traffic, and if the UFO swooped over our car that close how no one else reported it.

What's more likely ?

A ball game or event that caused heavy traffic or that your current memory is more accurate than the original account ?

I'm not 100% discounting your story but it needs some more rational thinking.

I have caught myself creating a couple of false memories before. In one I recalled my grades were higher than they actually were. In another I thought I wrote a new song but it was actually a tune I had heard years previously .

Also...Never do hypnotic regression it's just a tool that is going to make an even bigger mess well know for the capability of planting false memories and discredited in court cases.

You may enjoy my related thread on strange eyewitness behaviour ....



www.abovetopsecret.com...


Wascos post.....


I saw a twilight disc with 5 other people in 1974. We didn't see lights in the sky, we saw a large metallic looking craft no more than 200 yards away from us. There was a bridge about 300 yards behind us with traffic on it. As far as I could tell no one stopped to look at the hovering flying saucer. I spoke to one of the witnesses about 10-15 years later and first he didn't remember and then he said, "Oh yeah, we saw some kind of lights in the sky". Now this guy wasn't very bright, he was busing tables at a restaurant my parents and I were eating at, and he had turned into a major doper but still I would have expected him to remember more detail. Hell he was the first one of us to see it. The other peculiarity was we became afraid as it moved in to it's closest approach to us, all of us at the same time. As soon as we felt fear it stopped approaching us and hovered for a few seconds and then started slowly moving away.

I wouldn't swear to it buy I wouldn't be surprised if they can mess with our minds at close range.

originally posted by: ManInAsia
What's more likely ?

A ball game or event that caused heavy traffic or that your current memory is more accurate than the original account ?

I'm not 100% discounting your story but it needs some more rational thinking.

I have caught myself creating a couple of false memories before. In one I recalled my grades were higher than they actually were. In another I thought I wrote a new song but it was actually a tune I had heard years previously .

Also...Never do hypnotic regression it's just a tool that is going to make an even bigger mess well know for the capability of planting false memories and discredited in court cases.

Yeah i see what your saying. What i meant is I am wondering if when i reported this sighting there was a memory of us not being alone planted into my mind at the time, then 10 years later we are both remembering what actually happened (no one else around) or possibly there was traffic around when we thought it was going to crash into us, we were abducted then put back into our car later when there was no one else around. Or, i could just be crazy and there was traffic and i just dont remember. That is a very real possiblity.

originally posted by: ManInAsia
You may enjoy my related thread on strange eyewitness behaviour ....



www.abovetopsecret.com...


Wascos post.....


I saw a twilight disc with 5 other people in 1974. We didn't see lights in the sky, we saw a large metallic looking craft no more than 200 yards away from us. There was a bridge about 300 yards behind us with traffic on it. As far as I could tell no one stopped to look at the hovering flying saucer. I spoke to one of the witnesses about 10-15 years later and first he didn't remember and then he said, "Oh yeah, we saw some kind of lights in the sky". Now this guy wasn't very bright, he was busing tables at a restaurant my parents and I were eating at, and he had turned into a major doper but still I would have expected him to remember more detail. Hell he was the first one of us to see it. The other peculiarity was we became afraid as it moved in to it's closest approach to us, all of us at the same time. As soon as we felt fear it stopped approaching us and hovered for a few seconds and then started slowly moving away.

I wouldn't swear to it buy I wouldn't be surprised if they can mess with our minds at close range.

i read through some of the posts on your old thread and it was very interesting I have a feeling alot of people (my wife included) do not believe in UFOs and get highly disturbed when a close encounter happens.

In my wifes case she got very upset after this happened and did not want to talk about it. If i pressed her (and i did alot) she would admit that yes she saw a ufo, but in her words "who cares! theres nothing we can do about it so just drop it"

There have been a few times i have mentioned what happened to family members at a gathering if someone brings up the subject of aliens ect. at which point my wife will shoot me the look of death and deny that she saw anything if i say she was there. Then i feel like an idiot like i made it up. Later ill ask her why did she deny it and she says it embarrases her and people will think were crazy, so dont talk about it.

Actually seeing a UFO up close highly disturbed me and i believe in aliens and ufos. I think to someone that didnt have an open mind in the first place they just want to deny seeing anything and forget about it.

I use to listen to this chanel, but is in spanish because I´m from Spain. It has documented a lot of this kind of experiences, time travel and weird encounters where missing time appears to be a constant.

www.youtube.com...