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On The Subject of Migration Becoming a Human Right

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posted on Nov, 30 2018 @ 09:34 AM
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This is a long document which I am only just beginning to read, but I share here, because although I am only just scratching the surface, it seems sinister

Intergovernmentally negotiated and agreed outcome of the Global Compact for Safe, Orderly and Regular Migration

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In December 2017, the administration of President Donald Trump pulled the US out of the negotiations on the compact, stating that its provisions were “inconsistent with US immigration and refugee policies”. In July 2018, the Hungarian government under rightwing Prime Minister Viktor Orban, too, said it was withdrawing from the process.

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Hungary also opt out. This for me rings alarm bells.

I might be jumping to conclusions but this document suggests legitinmising mass migration and pushes multiple countries to adopt the same rules, despite the democratic wishes of their population.


Nobody is talking about this but it seems hugely relevant.



U.S. Permanent Representative to the United Nations Nikki Haley said: "Our decisions on immigration policies must always be made by Americans and Americans alone. We will decide how best to control our borders and who will be allowed to enter our country. The global approach in the New York Declaration is simply not compatible with U.S. sovereignty."

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'The Italian Government would risk losing control of its borders in favor of external agents operating a migration policy of "open borders" which conflicts with the orientation democratically expressed by Italian voters',

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The global compact for migration is the first, intergovernmentally negotiated agreement, prepared under the auspices of the United Nations, to cover all dimensions of international migration in a holistic and comprehensive manner. Following extensive consultations, a text for the Compact has been agreed and is to be adopted at an Intergovernmental Conference in Marrakech, Morocco, 10 – 11 December this year.

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In the search for truth I would avoid Google, it thinks there are only 4 pages of results related to this document. Yet DuckDuckGo is showing endless results and criticism.


I may be taking this the wrong way but this looks like another document taking the democratic process and pi**ing on it.




posted on Nov, 30 2018 @ 09:38 AM
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a reply to: and14263

The thing about the UN is that they cannot force sovereign countries to do anything. Period.

Nor can they force member countries to sign their documents.

Nor can they force member countries to adopt their guidelines as national law.

The UN is a useless body that, IMO, causes more discord throughout the world than it does help things, not to mention it's an expensive, useless thing.



posted on Nov, 30 2018 @ 09:39 AM
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I think the reason for this is that if you are pushing a socialist world you can't have happy capitalist form a majority voting block of any sort.
You need unhappy people for socialism to be realized.

Unhappy emotional people.

Unhappy emotional and jealous people.

If you don't have that in a geographic area, then you bring them in from somewhere else.

Out of chaos comes socialism.



posted on Nov, 30 2018 @ 09:52 AM
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a reply to: and14263

At a quick look I would agree with Trump
He is carrying out his pledge

of putting America first .... and thats how imo it should be.
MAGA.


Angela Merkle has tried to implement this .... Now look how her popularity

has plummeted?



Finally look at the problems immigration has had on the countries who have

had open borders. More problems that we are lead to believe, as the media

are offically blocked on what they are allowed to report for fear of stirring

up problems.



So under handed problems are inflicted on innocent nationals.......


I have a 'thing' against *human rights.* It is always slewed.


Because at the other end of one persons *human rights* there is a strong

possibility that someone else is having their *human rights* infringed.


The immigrants rights versus the residents rights




edit on 30-11-2018 by eletheia because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 30 2018 @ 10:00 AM
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We are all earthlings. Immigration doesn't really make any difference. It's not like 30 or 40% of a nation's total population is showing up in one year of immigration.

I say embrace immigrants, make them citizens, and give them training to find meaningful work to help the economy grow.



posted on Nov, 30 2018 @ 10:12 AM
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originally posted by: dfnj2015
We are all earthlings. Immigration doesn't really make any difference. It's not like 30 or 40% of a nation's total population is showing up in one year of immigration.

I say embrace immigrants, make them citizens, and give them training to find meaningful work to help the economy grow.


This is virtuous of you. The problem is that some migrants do not wish to assimilate into the culture they are migrating into but rather to spread and inflict their culture on others. Angela Merkel in an Islamic state would be covered top to bottom in black clothing and would not be permitted to speak in public. Now that I think about this.......



posted on Nov, 30 2018 @ 10:17 AM
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It’s the New World Order (Globalism) mantra. Unchecked migration robs countries of their wealth, overloads their health, education, safety systems and ultimately will destroy any identity of given country. Look at the US now, where some schools have to teach in many languages, not just English, the “official” language of the US. Used to be English and Spanish. Now there is so many across the country, can’t keep track.

As for growing the US (or any country migrants invade) economy, taking free (to them, not taxpayers) services and then sending wages back to home country does ZERO to grow the invaded country’s economy.

Now if the migrant is self-supporting, going to pay for goods and services received, and is committed to keeping wages in the US (if migrating to US), I’m all for it.

World globalism and socialism is the goal...don’t ever forget it. At least if you believe in freedom, in keeping most of what you earn, and in the principles of a Democratic Republic.



posted on Nov, 30 2018 @ 10:18 AM
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Well that’s the thing, whether one agrees with it or not, it’s likely unenforceable.

The only area the UN really has any semblance of serious power is the UN Security Council.
a reply to: SlapMonkey



posted on Nov, 30 2018 @ 10:21 AM
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What I told a good friend in a relevant debate, who is for open borders, is that even if someone believes in globalism or open borders as a goal, it’s totally unwise to accelerate that prematurely and with the current huge disparities in country development, stability, etc.

I’m also against forcing it on everyone or using deception to get there.
a reply to: eletheia



posted on Nov, 30 2018 @ 10:28 AM
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originally posted by: dfnj2015
We are all earthlings. Immigration doesn't really make any difference. It's not like 30 or 40% of a nation's total population is showing up in one year of immigration.

I say embrace immigrants, make them citizens, and give them training to find meaningful work to help the economy grow.


Open the floodgates and that's what you'll get: peoples of the crappy nations showing up to the not so crappy nations and the upheaval alone will cause massive ripple effects that makes the not so crappy crappy places too.

Where now the whole world over will have been trained to just copout instead of fight for making your world around you a better place.

Which is too perfect a global society of copout complacency so much better for our Elite Masters to not expect a proper uprising.




posted on Nov, 30 2018 @ 10:32 AM
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The only area the UN really has any semblance of serious power is the UN Security Council.


Unless the security matter at hand goes against US or its allies interests, China and their allies, or Russia and it's.

So basically the whole world is immune except the world countries with no resources.... Then we'll send observers.
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posted on Nov, 30 2018 @ 10:49 AM
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I have smelled the stink of socialism in everything that's been going on for at least the last 20 years. I know that smell when I smell it and it's not even something I can put into words. It's just this simple. I grew up not asking any questions and just mindlessly swallowing socialist propaganda. The socialist carrier pigeons all have a very distinctive vibe and even if you don't spot them immediately, you will probably know what you're listening to when you hear it once you know what to listen for.

Don't get me wrong. I don't necessarily think the basic idea of socialism is any worse (in theory) than anything else (At the end of the day, every single system in existence is going to seriously hurt, persecute and kill millions either directly or indirectly. It's all just a matter of who end up with the # end of the stick.

What worries me is the fact that socialism tends to be incompatible with human nature and bad things tend to happen when highly motivated (and often radical) socialists get frustrated. As far as they're concerned, people who don't want to cooperate with them and won't compromise deserve whatever they get. That's how they see it.

If you didn't know this would all boil down to a hard and heavy push for global socialism years and years ago, you're years and years behind the reality of what's going on here.
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posted on Nov, 30 2018 @ 10:59 AM
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originally posted by: dfnj2015
We are all earthlings. Immigration doesn't really make any difference. It's not like 30 or 40% of a nation's total population is showing up in one year of immigration.

I say embrace immigrants, make them citizens, and give them training to find meaningful work to help the economy grow.


Let me guess: You are an upper middle class knowledge worker, or dependent of such.

If you are European or African American, you've never tried to work in the building trades in the South or western US., where the jobs are "reserved" for illegals who will turn around and give 60% of their paycheck to "la familia".

Let me guess, if you are black or white, you've never worked in meatpacking or agriculture or hotel.

Your job has never been threatened because of illegal labor, and you either go/went to a private school or a a majority white one where there are no portable buildings for the ESL students, and for college you didn't have to compete against illegals for scholarships or "financial need" placements.

The elite think immigration is wonderful.

The working class have to have their wages repressed, their opportunities given to favored immigrant groups, and their politics and religion mocked.

Empathy for strangers, not for your neighbors. because who is my neighbor, really?



posted on Nov, 30 2018 @ 11:44 AM
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originally posted by: dfnj2015
We are all earthlings. Immigration doesn't really make any difference. It's not like 30 or 40% of a nation's total population is showing up in one year of immigration.

I say embrace immigrants, make them citizens, and give them training to find meaningful work to help the economy grow.


Just don't take money out of my pocket to support them every time somebody wanders into our country. Most people have a hard enough time paying for food, shelter, healthcare, etc. and work their butts off to break even each month. Plus most countries are in debt already. So it's not very fair to them to keep taking more of what they make to give migrants free stuff! Nobody should wander into a country homeless and broke and expect the working people there to take care of them.

If there is a job available and they are hired before coming, come here legally, pay taxes immediately, and don't take from the people already there, then I'm ok with it.



posted on Nov, 30 2018 @ 12:04 PM
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China and Russia will never allow unvetted migration into their countries.

So even though they may act like they are on board with the UN their motivation is the destabilization of the US.

It is just one big chess board.



posted on Nov, 30 2018 @ 12:21 PM
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a reply to: and14263

Human rights are a relative concept. Your rights are legitimate exactly as long as they do not interfere with my rights. If you continue to insist on your rights to the detriment of mine, then I will just give you a blow in the face)))



posted on Nov, 30 2018 @ 12:34 PM
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The future of Western Civilisation lies with Eastern Europe. Slovakia, Hungary, Poland etc will become destinations for native European migrants who wish to escape the economic destruction of their home countries as the Kalergi plan erodes them into sh#thile nation’s.

The three thousand year old culture of the West is far superior to the third-world rape-cultures they are being infested with and will not succumb to the destructive forces of socialism. It will simply migrate to the East where the leaders aren’t so ‘cucked’.

Socialism is a truly racist, fascist, separatist culture that oppresses populations en masse and kills millions upon millions of truly innocent people.

Western European leaders (definitely NOT the population) want to destroy Western civilisation because it produces free thinking people who are too hard to control.

It says a lot about those who support them, doesn’t it?

Either Easern Europe will become the new west or this racist, fascist Kalergi plan will fail altogether. Westerners seem to have a knack for defending the superior culture that their ancestors have given them. They’ve kept it for a few millenia so far, they won’t hand it over as easily as UN is expecting.

Mass uprisings of Western populations have proven to be extremely effective against tyranny. And when their economies are destroyed, their children are being raped and their way of life is being threatened, an ‘uprising’ is what you’ll get.



posted on Nov, 30 2018 @ 01:30 PM
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originally posted by: SlapMonkey
a reply to: and14263

The thing about the UN is that they cannot force sovereign countries to do anything. Period.

Nor can they force member countries to sign their documents.

Nor can they force member countries to adopt their guidelines as national law.

The UN is a useless body that, IMO, causes more discord throughout the world than it does help things, not to mention it's an expensive, useless thing.



Sounds a hell of a lot better than a UN that forces everyone to bend to it's will, then creates invasions to enforce it's decisions.

Considering all things having an ineffective UN is tolerable.



posted on Nov, 30 2018 @ 01:40 PM
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If it becomes a right, party at every elites house. Everyone invites, especially the hobos that haven't showered in years.

Yeah for communism and good will..and all that # that been corrupted.
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posted on Nov, 30 2018 @ 01:49 PM
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a reply to: muzzleflash

No amount of wasting taxpayer dollars on something that outweighs itself with the conflicts it creates versus the good that it does is "tolerable."



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