Watch a Spaceship Leave Earth in Stunning ISS Video

a reply to: theMediator

I'd actually posit the opposite. It's now seen as cooler to say NASA are all a bunch of filthy liars and be seen a someone who is 'woke' than it is to just do your own research, or maybe watch a few rocket launches first hand, or fly in an airplane so you can see the curvature of the earth than it is to just say "Hey that's cool time-lapse showing a neat and real thing that mankind accomplished."

It's awesome to question things. But to just out-of-hand dismiss everything you see or hear or taste or touch or smell is just bordering psychosis. Not everyone is out to pull one over on you.

a reply to: AM10101

What's funny about his NASA comment is that the video was published by the ESA and is filming a Russian rocket.

It is indeed awesome to question things, but not if you aren't prepared to accept one of the possible answers.

a reply to: OneBigMonkeyToo

I agree wholeheartedly. Many times when someone is questioning something it doesn't come from a place of wanting to know the truth. It comes from a place of wanting to have their own viewpoint confirmed.

We love validation. When we don't hear what we want, we scream that everyone else is delusional. It couldn't possibly be me, could it? No, not ever.

(there's some sarcasm there in my last two sentences for those that didn't readily get it)

For the sake of conspiracy....

FAKE

Fantastic share!

Just a little warning to everyone else, there is sudden and loud music attached!

Sean Doran's posted this beautiful close-up of the whole launch sequence:


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Watch full-screen!

Playing it at 0.25 speed simulates real-time.

originally posted by: AM10101
a reply to: theMediator

I'd actually posit the opposite. It's now seen as cooler to say NASA are all a bunch of filthy liars and be seen a someone who is 'woke' than it is to just do your own research, or maybe watch a few rocket launches first hand, or fly in an airplane so you can see the curvature of the earth than it is to just say "Hey that's cool time-lapse showing a neat and real thing that mankind accomplished."

It's awesome to question things. But to just out-of-hand dismiss everything you see or hear or taste or touch or smell is just bordering psychosis. Not everyone is out to pull one over on you.

Many planes have windows that distort the horizon. Even planes flying far higher with nondistorting windows, or high altitude balloons show very little curvature unless using fisheye, planes flying lower would be undetectable.

You have to rely on the images of rockets from space, or photographic analysis from the highest altitudes to see curvature.

a reply to: Xenogears

How about ships traveling over the horizon?

originally posted by: Xenogears
You have to rely on the images of rockets from space, or photographic analysis from the highest altitudes to see curvature.

Or photos from earth like this:

originally posted by: AM10101
a reply to: Xenogears

How about ships traveling over the horizon?

originally posted by: wildespace

originally posted by: Xenogears
You have to rely on the images of rockets from space, or photographic analysis from the highest altitudes to see curvature.

Or photos from earth like this:

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There's already an answer for that perspective reducing angular resolution, and refraction of light due to atmospheric lensing, as well as atmospheric distortion.

Unless there's easily disproven misinformation being passed around it appears one way or another refraction is having a real significant effect. The height of objects hidden at the horizon varies depending on the day and time of day. It appears mountains that should be kilometers under the curvature due to distance and height, not visible, 150+mile yet still remain visible notably above the horizon, they are said to be raised by refraction several kilometers.




Not saying I buy this stuff, just giving the arguments they make.

That said a flat earth would probably be easier to produce in a simulation than a practically infinite universe, unless you had a ridiculous computer. If we give thought to the possibility of the simulation argument, instruments, memories, and even data from outside the simulation could come in, as well as real npcs.

originally posted by: Xenogears
It appears mountains that should be kilometers under the curvature due to distance and height, not visible, 150+mile yet still remain visible notably above the horizon, they are said to be raised by refraction several kilometers.

Yes, without air refraction a lot of things wouldn't be even visible over the horizon. It lifts them up somewhat over the curvature of the earth.

On a flat earth, nothing would be "sinking" below the horizon. The angular size of more and more distant objects would just get smaller and smaller until they disappear into a point _on_ the line of the horizon.



Also, my first photo shows a clear curve, indicated by the pylons:

originally posted by: wildespace

originally posted by: Xenogears
It appears mountains that should be kilometers under the curvature due to distance and height, not visible, 150+mile yet still remain visible notably above the horizon, they are said to be raised by refraction several kilometers.

Yes, without air refraction a lot of things wouldn't be even visible over the horizon. It lifts them up somewhat over the curvature of the earth.

On a flat earth, nothing would be "sinking" below the horizon. The angular size of more and more distant objects would just get smaller and smaller until they disappear into a point _on_ the line of the horizon.

Also, my first photo shows a clear curve, indicated by the pylons:

The claim is refraction bends light down.


Supposedly the following video is from that same lake showing it is straight line from side to side.


The disappearing boats, there are those who claim they have been at the side of very large lakes, and seen the boat throughout the entire journey in a straight line side to side as it disappears from one side to those at that coast, and some time later appears to those on the other side of the lake's coast. If that is true, at least some disappearances would appear to be due to refraction.

Alexander Gerst captured yet another timelapse of a Soyuz launch, on Dec 3rd!


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a reply to: gortex

That is beautiful.