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Right-wing Bolsonaro wins Brazil presidential race

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posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 01:58 AM
Maybe people are wising up and shedding the progressive, lawless, shroud of 'feel good' for actual beneficial societal changes. If a direction tears down instead of builds up it might be smart to change your heading, No..

Brazil has been descending into a crime ridden drug culture for many years now and is in many ways worse off than the Philippines before Rodrigo Duterte cleaned up their societies decline and reduced crime. The Brazilian economy is a disaster, politics have been a thuggish thoroughly rotten endeavor for way to long. Street crime is so bad that seven Brazilian cities are classified in the world’s 20 most violent. With a 12% unemployment rate things have been steadily going down hill for way to long IMO.

I also get a kick out of the NWO crowd throwing the words "right wing" at anyone who does not want communism lite or the new socialism that will solve all ills for the rich elite while the peons starve and fight for their very existence. .

BRASILIA (Reuters) - Former Army captain Jair Bolsonaro won Brazil's presidential election on Sunday, riding a wave of frustration over corruption and crime that brought a dramatic swing to the right in the world's fourth-largest democracy, official results show.

With 94 percent of the ballots counted, Bolsonaro had 56 percent of the votes in the run-off election against left-wing hopeful Fernando Haddad of the Workers Party (PT), who had 44 percent, according to the electoral authority TSE.

The 63-year-old seven-term congressman has vowed to crack down on crime in Brazil's cities and farm belt by granting police more autonomy to shoot at criminals. He also wants to let more Brazilians buy weapons to fight crime.

Oh my right wing all they way !

posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 02:54 AM
This is growing world wide.

I think control is slipping from the Cabal ... one country at a time.

Historically, Brazil is one of the places that evil people flock to because they do not often agree to extradite criminals from other countries.

If that changes, Brazil could rid itself of a great many trouble makers.

Let us wait and see how the new President acts before we make our minds up. They shoot street kids over there so ... giving Police more power could go either way.


edit on 29/10/2018 by pheonix358 because: (no reason given)

posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 03:44 AM
a reply to: 727Sky

One thing people should remember when talking about other countries is that "right" and "left" do not mean exactly the same in different countries. Politics are a kind of a side effect of a society, so different societies have different politics, even in places where they copy other countries' politics.

Me, I would prefer someone that doesn't support dictatorships.

posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 03:44 AM
a reply to: 727Sky

The dude openly admitted to being a homophobe and openly admitted that women don't deserve equal pay amongst other outrageous comments.

There is far right and there is bonkers, this falls in the latter. Criminals rule Brazil, I wouldn't be surprised if there was an attempt on his life.

posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 04:25 AM
This right wing supporter of Brazil`s military rule of the 80s (remember helicopter-tossing? Those guys) is a desaster for the Amazonas primeval forest, he will put up (as promoted by himself) a near-dictatorship with massive cuts to social services, healthcare and protection to some of the last indigene natives living undisturbed by modern civilization.

He will enhance police-forces and military expenditure without looking at the sources of poverty and crime, just for show.

He wants to create an even larger division between the rich and the poor.

All of these points are from his own program.

posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 04:44 AM
a reply to: ManFromEurope

I am always reminded of a Canadian friend who through all the MSN brain washing told me if Trump got elected the stock market would crash and he would be impeached within his first year. True story..

Since this was an election and the people voted Bolsonaro to be their new president I think it would be wise for all of us to set back and see the fruits of his labors.

I was told during a military briefing, after a question of mine, that there were people a lot smarter than us figuring all this stuff out. Since then I have had second thoughts about experts and their opinions; especially the bought and paid for brownie point seeking kind...

If we listened to opinion pieces and believed all the talking heads HRC would have been our president for better or worse.

So I say give the guy a chance .. If he is a screw up I doubt he will last... Maybe the Brazilian stock market will crash and he will not make a year in office.
. Or he will help pull their society out of the septic pool they have descended into. Time will tell, no ?

posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 05:03 AM
a reply to: Thecakeisalie


Because I know well, and we all should, that anything propagated by the MSM is propaganda and I for one often read and think, the opposite may well be true.

Just look at what they said about President Trump and compare that to his achievements now.

So, do you have a source for your POV please?


posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 05:57 AM
I'm sorry 727 but Duterte is not someone to be emulated. He is a brutal tyrant using the issue of drug use to instil himself as a totalitarian strong man. Drug use is a health and social issue. Nobody deserves to be murdered over a substance, be it heroin or meth or cannabis. The punishment does not fit the crime in that instance and almost the entire world is horrified at what is happening in the Philippines at present. With that said, as mentioned above, politics is different in different cultures. What works in one society, may not in another. Thus why socialism works quite well in some nordic countries, but not so much in say.... greece. Different cultures.

posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 06:36 AM
a reply to: harold223

But socialism doesn't work in Nordic countries.

Many people confuse socialism with the social democracy type governments of the Nordic countries just because they are phonetically similar.

Capitalism still plays a large role in their economies and many privately owned businesses prosper.

posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 06:52 AM
a reply to: harold223

I personally do not care what happens to Duterte.. what I am going on is the Philippines of 7 years ago compared to today .. Today your chances of getting mugged or killed for drug money is almost nonexistent when compared to 7 years ago.

I have friends that moved from P.I. because they were afraid of the crime. They are now visiting again and talking about moving back..

As far as executing drug dealers that is the way it works in much of the world or they are locked up to never see freedom again especially in Asia.. Right or wrong that is the way it is... I have always believed that if you follow the laws of a country you can stay out of governmental issues that can lock you up or flat out kill you in slow motion.

Maybe Asia is partly sensitive on drugs because of the British importation of opium and the following opium wars ? Either way if a country says you will be shot or incarcerated if caught with illegal drugs you can bet that most people with two brain cells they can use for reasoning avoid illegal drug problems.

posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 06:55 AM

originally posted by: ArMaP
a reply to: 727Sky

One thing people should remember when talking about other countries is that "right" and "left" do not mean exactly the same in different countries. Politics are a kind of a side effect of a society, so different societies have different politics, even in places where they copy other countries' politics.

Me, I would prefer someone that doesn't support dictatorships.

Well said.

Living in Brazil I can tell you guys that this dude has NOTHING similar to Trump.

Trump is doing a great job in America but that's not because he's a right-winger. It's because he is intelligent, not corrupt and want to put his country first.

While we are not sure of Bolsonaro's play here, he does not seem at all an intelligent person. He even stop showing up for the debates because it was causing a bad impression. People here are so desperate for a change (the last party stayed in power for 12 years), they would vote a monkey if there were any running for president.

He also has some pretty strong positions against women, black people, LGBTQ community, etc.

But let's see where this goes... I've been wrong before. Hope that's the case again.
edit on 29/10/2018 by vinifalou because: (no reason given)

posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 07:11 AM
a reply to: 727Sky

And if he would have been a communist?
Invading plans are ready to deploy?

Because I think that the military/intelligence branch of the USA are very blind on their right eye, and the enemy is even more an enemy if he is left-leaning.

posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 07:13 AM
From some sources on the internet, not me:
" said he'd rather his kid die in a accident than be gay

said that Brazil should withdraw from the UN because they're a communists

that he is proud to cheat on his taxes and recommends voters do it too

wants to bring back torture

wants police to have a "carte blache to kill" criminals, chemically castrate rapists

thinks that the military dictators of Brazil's past should have killed more people

wants to purge leftists/socialists"


"Bolsonaro has previously said that, if elected, he would withdraw Brazil from the 2015 Paris Agreement on climate change, arguing that global warming is nothing more than "greenhouse fables".

Bolsonaro has called for the closure of both Brazil’s environment agency (IBAMA), which monitors deforestation and environmental degradation, and its Chico Mendes Institute which issues fines to negligent parties. This would eliminate any form of oversight of actions that lead to deforestation.

Bolsonaro has also threatened to do away with the legislative protections afforded to environmental reserves and indigenous communities. He has previously argued that what he describes as an “indigenous land demarcation industry” must be restricted and reversed, allowing for farms and industry to encroach into previously protected lands.

In the run up to this election, figures were released which showed the rate of deforestation in the Brazilian Amazon is continuing to climb. In August 2018, 545km² of forest were cleared – three times more than the area deforested the previous August. The world’s largest rainforest is integral to climate change mitigation, so cutting back on deforestation is an urgent global issue. Brazil, however, is heading in the opposite direction."

Some things he said:
"I am in favor of torture you know that. [...] This country will only change with civil war, killing thousands. If some innocents die, that's OK, it happens" . "Let's fusillade petralhas (slang for the opposing political party)". He also praised Coronel Brilhante Ustra as true patriot in Brazilian Congress. Ustra was a torturer known for (Edit: torturing).

"Minorities have to bow down to the majority [...] Minorities [should] adequate themselves or simply disappear".

["Being gay is result of lack of beating"] (

"Women shouldn't have the same salary because they get pregnant", Telling a congresswoman she "doesn't deserve to be raped by him"

"My son wouldn't date a black woman, he was well educated".

"Pinochet did what had to be done"

If you vote for this guy, you get this guy combined with a membership for "countries failing their citizens".
edit on 29 10 2018 by ManFromEurope because: (no reason given)

posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 07:25 AM
Gunna be tough to clean up that country

a reply to: 727Sky

posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 07:42 AM
a reply to: ManFromEurope

That's quite a compilation you've made.

A few of these things are not put in the same way he said, and later he added that he wouldn't withdraw from the Paris agreement.

People voted for him because the previous party was cleaning their pockets for 12 years, the last president we had is currently in jail for corruption and he wanted to run until he was vetted by the justice.

So I kinda understand people who voted for him, they're mad at the corruption but they're also uneducated. You can't put a racist, homophobic and violent person in power because then you might legitimize this kind of behavior.

posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 08:27 AM
I was scrolling through Reddit and they're having a meltdown. "Pray for Brazil" is a common theme as a result of this election.

My knee jerk reaction is that Reddit is overwhelmed with an extreme leftist population and they're reacting the same way they reacted to Trumps election win. The same words are being thrown around; sexist, racist, misogynist, fascist, etc...

I don't speak their language so I can't directly translate his words. All I can do is rely on media reports. But if it's anything close to the leftist media's portrayal of their political opposition, then I wouldn't believe a word of it.

posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 09:25 AM
Bolsonaro's "Party" is ironically named:

Social Liberal Party (Brazil)

and they "define" it as "Conservative" 😆

Fantastic. I see Brazil has a political saturation problem too.

Ideology and policies

Since Bolsonaro's entrance in the party, the PSL has changed much of its ideologies, abandoning its former socially liberal policies and keeping its economic liberal policies, supporting privatisation and decentralisation while at the same time adopting socially conservative policies regarding abortion, legalization of marijuana and the teaching of gender identity in schools.

The PSL is anti-communist and its members are prohibited from making alliances with left-wing political parties.

posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 10:13 AM
Okay, Wikiquote has made a special page just for him.

He is at least half a globe away from me, and that is a good thing. I just can imagine the amount of whitewashing, gaslighting, retouching history and rugsweeping what must have happened for the people in the farvelas who voted for him..

posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 10:16 AM
a reply to: Assassin82

Bolsonaro is being labeled as "the Brazilian Trump" on several social media platforms.

Personally, I think he is pretty extreme in some of his views but, if Brazil voted for him, then that's that.


posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 10:47 AM
Brazilians don't have (Yet!) the right to conceal carry and bear arms.

Yet. .. I don't think the gun grabbers united of the Civilized states can explain over 63000 murder .. can they ?

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