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originally posted by: pheonix358
a reply to: Vroomfondel
Stop and frisk is unconstitutional!
That is all that needs to be said.
P
originally posted by: Vroomfondel
originally posted by: pheonix358
a reply to: Vroomfondel
Stop and frisk is unconstitutional!
That is all that needs to be said.
P
Tell that to the TSA next time you try to fly somewhere...
originally posted by: TinySickTears
originally posted by: Vroomfondel
originally posted by: pheonix358
a reply to: Vroomfondel
Stop and frisk is unconstitutional!
That is all that needs to be said.
P
Tell that to the TSA next time you try to fly somewhere...
is walking through the airport about to get on a plane the same thing as walking down the sidewalk?
im not sure here
originally posted by: odzeandennz
a reply to: Vroomfondel
i like how even in your hypothetical scenario, blacks still had the most weapons and ok to stop and frisk.
so your bias is already showing, even hypothetically.
It makes sense to focus where the greatest concentrations of these illegal weapons are to be found, target the people most likely to be carrying them. If that turns out to be white people, then there is your answer.
originally posted by: projectvxn
Stop and frisk policy was ended in New York because it violated people's 4th Amendment rights among other reasons.
This is a policy that Republicans hang onto that I will never understand.
In 2002, New Yorkers were stopped by the police 97,296 times. 80,176 were totally innocent (82 percent).
In 2003, New Yorkers were stopped by the police 160,851 times. 140,442 were totally innocent (87 percent).
In 2004, New Yorkers were stopped by the police 313,523 times. 278,933 were totally innocent (89 percent).
In 2005, New Yorkers were stopped by the police 398,191 times. 352,348 were totally innocent (89 percent).
In 2006, New Yorkers were stopped by the police 506,491 times. 457,163 were totally innocent (90 percent).
originally posted by: TinySickTears
a reply to: Vroomfondel
hell yeah.
it could possibly maybe save lives
lets do it!!!!
i bet you would be against any kind of gun control/reform even though it could possibly maybe save lives cause..... the constitution
am i right?
At a sobriety checkpoint, drivers are necessarily stopped without reasonable suspicion, and may be asked to be tested summarily and without probable cause. Thus the Constitution would prohibit people from being stopped without a search warrant or at least without reasonable suspicion that they have committed a crime;
originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: TinySickTears
If just one life was saved, the inconvenience to the "frisked" was worth it. It's analogous to TSA screening everyone at the airport. Inconvenient, but worth it.
originally posted by: TinySickTears
a reply to: Vroomfondel
so youre not cool with a sobriety check point but you are cool with stop and frisk?
am i clear on this?