The new gen is here

originally posted by: Nyiah

originally posted by: dug88

originally posted by: caterpillage
a reply to: Metallicus

The new gen is all for total socialism, it's like living with mommy and daddy forever! Just sit back and let gov take of everything for you. As long as they have music pumped into their ears and an Xbox to play with, it's all good.

Ya know I always hear 1984 as the book that's referenced as the playbook for the future...i've always thought that was wrong. It feels far more like farenheit 451. A world where everyone's plugged in constantly to their earbuds and zoned out in front of a giant screen of bull#, hopped up on drugs that keep them as idiotic zombies while knowledge is burned and destroyed around them and they cheer it on because knowledge and self responsibility is bad...mmmmmkaay.

Got any examples of knowledge being snubbed? Whether you want to admit it or not, most science deniers aren't Gen Xers (younger ones, anyway) Millennials & Gen Zers, but the other folks chiding, "Oh yeah? And who decided THEY were experts?"

And again, if you're going to blame any of the younger folks for what they've been taught in schools, I remind you of who's doing the bulk of the teaching. Kicking the can down the road and calling the youngins stupid or uneducated doesn't fly, that's just shirking responsibility for being a few terrible generations' worth of teachers. Isn't it.

Destruction:

www.nature.com...

amp.businessinsider.com...

cultural destruction

airshipdaily.com...

articles.latimes.com...

Book burning 21st century

Censorship:

www.newsweek.com...

www.nature.com...

en.m.wikipedia.org...

www.cbc.ca...

www.scientificamerican.com...

www.sciencemag.org...

www.nature.com...

And just as an extra personal note. I worked on a government funded wildlife project for a couple years. Part of our funding requirements was to publicly share our data....until we found an endangered species living in a mine. After that we were told all our data were to be given to the government to be shared at their discretion on their database. If we Published our data anywhere else our funding would have been taken away.

a reply to: dug88

I would encourage you to take a gander at the age range of the people pressuring this mindset into fruition. Leave the financial incentives & kickbacks aside for the moment (anybody has their price, we all know that) Take a good look at who's demanding the silence. Not the guy above you relaying the demands, but the ones at the top, slamming the gavel down, so to speak. It's not the 20-somethings.

a reply to: Allaroundyou

Nyiah said it already, but I'll be taking a dirt nap in a few years and won't really give a sh#t what happens.

Cause, dead.

originally posted by: caterpillage

The new gen is all for total socialism, it's like living with mommy and daddy forever! Just sit back and let gov take of everything for you. As long as they have music pumped into their ears and an Xbox to play with, it's all good.

Lol!! I was watching a TV programme and discussion with a selection of

young people on that very subject ...... You forgot to mention their need

to *chill* and why should they work to make someone else richer.


Then one of the more literate ones among them came out with " Yea I used

to think like that, then I got a job and grew up."


Obviously he has a good attitude and is on his way to go further and do better

in life than the others.

As technology, food, air, water, ideas, humans, animals, planets change. We will see a better or worse planet. Depending on how we act and solve this now.

I'm young and personally don't see the problem with how things have panned out my life is good much better then that of my parents, grandparents... great grandparents.. I have a home, a car, money.. food.. holidays.. plus all this technology! Yes of course there are negatives some that effect me and some that don't but that's the same for every generation.

What bugs me more then anything is the paranoia in society the big bad government is out to get you.. the Illuminati.. the lizard men... As a gay white disabled male I know I am oppressed BUT not to the degree maybe my fathers generation was, we work to the better of all mankind generally, as a species that also means #ing up occasionally but the basis is not inherently bad! I am sure when I am older I will be pretty much the same as some of the comments on here of '''this generation is ruining the planet blah blah... just like every generation before you guys said the same. It's nothing new. It's not bad things that threaten you.. it's change.. Change is the thing you fear. BUT it's unstoppable, change will happen for better or for worse but right now I pretty much like the world I inhabit.

originally posted by: Allaroundyou
I will start this with a quote. “Thought i was high, thought I was free, thought I was there, divine destiny... divine destiny...this changes everything.” Thank you TOOL

The new generation is here and will shape the world as we know it. Much of what you know will change and many will not like it. We have a choice as to where this will go. What can you and I do to help make this a positive change? I don’t know seeing as I have my views. But we can all play a part to insure the future can be fruitful for all. The divided can be brought together but we need to find common ground. Where can we find that ground? I believe we need to stop blaming others and come together. People and TPTB all together. “We are the people” We are all one and the same.

The common ground is that everyone on far left and far right is fascinated by the human migration story going back 40,000 years. The ancient civilisations (Greece, Roman, Egyptian, Persian, China), migrations across the world, the ice ages, trade routes. To think that thousands of years ago, only a few million people lived in Europe, maybe a few thousand in the UK - the ice sheets still covered most of Europe and the USA. When they retreated, they exposed new lands to live on.

originally posted by: Nyiah
If we're to be realistic and blunt, we only have to listen to the Boomers and upper end Xers complain for a minimum of 20 more years before they start to die off quickly.

Sound callous and harsh, but hey, nobody lives forever. Society will change, and continue to change, with the die-off of every generation, there's nothing anybody can do to stop that. Unless they want to make it Rule of the Land to never change/adapt over time, and become a stifling oppressive pit like Saudi Arabia or something (and to be fair, even their old crusties are dying off & the country is changing slowly)

Going by your logic, you should be asking yourself why some of the "old crusties" are promoting your progressive agenda?

a reply to: Allaroundyou

The new generation is here and will shape the world as we know it. Much of what you know will change and many will not like it. We have a choice as to where this will go. What can you and I do to help make this a positive change?

I don't know, maybe not trying to sabotage every single thing the new generation does just to feel justified in saying we are useless and things were better when you were younger, even though all choices made by the previous generation got us here.

Also, i have read so much in the past year and a half that i have seen the following happening, somehow

- People born in the first/mid half of the 1900's complain about how younger generation (x and what followed) destroyed the world for them and now they can't live happy retired
- People generation X and so complain that they were delivered a world messed up and they can't fix it
- People generation X also say that the newer generations are destroying the world with their taste and music and choices and all the other stuff that has come around
- People from the 40's through 60's and around those times still think that anything that happened after they turned 40 or so is lame and useless, they want their world back

Everyone want's their world back

* I did take some liberty to say just gen X but i know people from before were also complaining about the same, and i know people even know who are 30 or so (does that still falls into gen X ?) and they are also constantly critical of the upcoming adults.

We will improve the world, we are going to bring up a new age where all adults after 50 have to go the purifying machine and "return to the light" in an explosion of pure atomic energy, like a video from the 60's of a nuclear bomb, it will be a yearly event, time to graduate! lmfao

But seriously, how can a new generation become better if the previous generation constantly meddles into their lives and pushed them to failure just so that they can say "we were better and you destroyed our world" or whatever. I am pretty sure this has been happening for centuries now, and there are some people saying things about the decline of the human race while doing the same little by little

originally posted by: ChristianParr
I'm young and personally don't see the problem with how things have panned out my life is good much better then that of my parents, grandparents... great grandparents.. I have a home, a car, money.. food.. holidays.. plus all this technology! Yes of course there are negatives some that effect me and some that don't but that's the same for every generation.

What bugs me more then anything is the paranoia in society the big bad government is out to get you.. the Illuminati.. the lizard men... As a gay white disabled male I know I am oppressed BUT not to the degree maybe my fathers generation was, we work to the better of all mankind generally, as a species that also means #ing up occasionally but the basis is not inherently bad! I am sure when I am older I will be pretty much the same as some of the comments on here of '''this generation is ruining the planet blah blah... just like every generation before you guys said the same. It's nothing new. It's not bad things that threaten you.. it's change.. Change is the thing you fear. BUT it's unstoppable, change will happen for better or for worse but right now I pretty much like the world I inhabit.

Your opinion from your point of view, i left my home 6 years ago and have moved 11 times since then, i have been living on my own for a year now and don't have a family in the sense of mom/dad/brothers/house and stuff, they live apart and i decided to live on my own, i can't work here where i live due to legal issues but i do get by and i get some help from my brother and things more or less move forward.

No way to complain from my point of view but every single person that is older tries to put down any attempt of freeing up and raising money for a business or any other plans. Is always the same lame attitude that we are not prepared enough and don't have what it takes but they did and we are just wasting space. You like your life, i also liked my life a lot when i was able to spend 1000 dollars a month on crap and clothes and movies and travels and boots and stuff. It is just your current point of view, if you were to lose it all and start from scratch with no help maybe you would see how much support you will get from them all, just a few will help, the rest will not

And about you becoming one of them eventually i think you are not thinking clearly, if you do then you have failed humanity, because if you were less prepared than the generation before and you do the same complaining and constant sabotaging of the plans of the new generation then you will help bring humanity down even more, but yes you will be able to complain, even though you were part of the reason it is what it is

Reading more of the comments on this thread i have realized my mistake

I'm sorry i did not know you all meant the US future only, the rest of the world may still survive lol

I don't know how you feel about this but it clearly shows that everyone is just repeating the same mistakes over an over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over...

And you all know it and still wish to do so

Oh well, good luck ladies and gentleman, i wish you the best and hopefully the US will survive the next gen, whatever they do and whatever it takes. Maybe you should kill all the current youngsters and start from scratch, if you don't like them at all like it seems from what comments on this thread

Just throwing some ideas out there but please don't kill me yet, i still have things to live

a reply to: Allaroundyou

I agree we need common ground.

The advent of digital everything is threatening to close brick and mortar in favor of delivery goods (Amazon) leaving nasty scars on the landscape.

In a way this is good, and in another way it's very bad.

Digital millionares (sex workers, designers, gofundme kids) are putting hardworking traditional employment for young adults in danger.

It's a scary trend.

Not everyone is good with computers or wants to strip on cam for cash.

originally posted by: ChristianParr
I'm young and personally don't see the problem with how things have panned out my life is good much better then that of my parents, grandparents... great grandparents.. I have a home, a car, money.. food.. holidays.. plus all this technology! Yes of course there are negatives some that effect me and some that don't but that's the same for every generation.

And how much of that do you attribute to ......

My mum died when I was young but before she did she instilled into me life skills from cooking a dinner, washing clothes how to clean. (I have aspergers) but she ensured I had what was needed to survive on my own as an adult. what I do find a lot especially within the autism 'culture' is parents disable their children. Little johnny can't do that oh it's far to stressful for him.. he doesn't need to go to school today because he had a meltdown blah blah blah. My mum as a kid would physically drag me where she wanted to go there was no refusing. She knew if I couldn't handle the basics how the hell was I going to handle working?

Your own words from a post in another thread ?

That older generation taught/instilled in you values?

What bugs me more then anything is the paranoia in society the big bad government is out to get you.. the Illuminati.. the lizard men... As a gay white disabled male I know I am oppressed BUT not to the degree maybe my fathers generation was, we work to the better of all mankind generally, as a species that also means #ing up occasionally but the basis is not inherently bad! I am sure when I am older I will be pretty much the same as some of the comments on here of '''this generation is ruining the planet blah blah... just like every generation before you guys said the same. It's nothing new. It's not bad things that threaten you.. it's change.. Change is the thing you fear. BUT it's unstoppable, change will happen for better or for worse but right now I pretty much like the world I inhabit.

However this part of the same post of yours on the other thread

Think the rules are... I don't think your child is special... I think all babies are ugly as #.. your child is not a prodigy for walking a few months earlier than any other child.. you, your life.. your child are NOT special and your existence pretty much means nothing to me. Bring your child up with the skills it needs and ignore impressing anyone else with your free love hippy lifestyle.

Yes I fully agree we need rid of *snowflakes*

a reply to: Allaroundyou

Ah but what everyone seems to forget and what the young don’t realise is that the generations morph into each other. It’s called ageing.

a reply to: eletheia

Remember... only a sith deals in absolutes What I see especially with the older generation is their view points are fixed, set in stone and nothing will sway them from what they think is a Utopian lifestyle of their own youth. Something interesting for you to consider, the brain is incapable of remembering pain (only the event) Reading some of the posts on here it's interesting that some forget how truly awful life was through not just parts of american history but global history. Including some current countries that are perhaps 100 years behind in development repeating the same mistakes as we did. It seems to a certain degree that people remember the better days through sepia tinted glasses.. where the sun always shone and the bad times were just a period where they were closer to family.. not literally starving for days on end or being wounded in battle or a daily threat of intercontinental missiles about to turn their body into the same temperature as the surface of the sun with just a few minutes warning.

Remember this, there is good and bad in every generation. The ONLY reason we have survived this long is because of change, It is the only constant in the universe. (please don't quote light) Like all species if you don't adapt, you die and for better or worse our generation will change yours just as the next generation will change ours. It is a futile exercise to think otherwise.

a reply to: eletheia

Before you go rubbing his nose in his personal history versus general beliefs, I again point out that the same generation that raised him raised the snowflakes everybody whines about. Kids don't helicopter parent themselves straight out the cooter.

I think the childrearing turning point is most easily agreed on by many to be pinpointed in the 70's. Now think about what other cultural/social shifts happened around then to shape that childrearing perspective. If you're willing to trace backward and find the catalyst, now we're talking. Otherwise, you're just blaming.

originally posted by: Wide-Eyes

originally posted by: Nyiah
If we're to be realistic and blunt, we only have to listen to the Boomers and upper end Xers complain for a minimum of 20 more years before they start to die off quickly.

Sound callous and harsh, but hey, nobody lives forever. Society will change, and continue to change, with the die-off of every generation, there's nothing anybody can do to stop that. Unless they want to make it Rule of the Land to never change/adapt over time, and become a stifling oppressive pit like Saudi Arabia or something (and to be fair, even their old crusties are dying off & the country is changing slowly)

Going by your logic, you should be asking yourself why some of the "old crusties" are promoting your progressive agenda?

There's always going to be ideals overlapping generations, but as far as pandering goes (which I assume is what you mean) THAT rests on realizing who holds the power as a demographic and who doesn't. Iron fist rule seldom works once a social shift has begun en mass. It's easier to let it fall into the annals of history than to try to maintain the status quo with an unwilling populace.

originally posted by: valiant

originally posted by: Nyiah
Boomers think the younger generations are bad, well where do you think they learned it? The Silent Generation TAUGHT you that, at least my grandmother had the good sense to realize it & admit it. And then you passed it on.

I always find it funny how this is lost on so many who complain about younger generations! But then again, being oblivious to the fact that they are part of the failure they complain about, it fits right in with the fantasy world they all seem to live in that the rest of us don't see.

Those words made a song by Mike and the Mechanics come to mind. Perhaps you know it...the lyrics seem quite fitting here:

I hate change.....