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one of the earliest abduction cases salzburg austria 1951: humanoid encounters

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posted on Jul, 7 2018 @ 07:59 PM
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INTRODUCTION
a short but interesting one today
CASE



According to a journalist's newspaper article in the Prince George Citizen, British Columbia, Canada, for December 11, 1957, a soldier with the US Army occupation force who has always maintained his anonymity told him the experience he had 6 years earlier near Salzburg, in Austria, at 11:20 p.m. in the night from the 15th to the 16th of May 1951. As he was on his way home, an entity moved into view from behind some bushes and pointed a long thin pencil-like device at him, and he was paralyzed. He described the entity as about 5 feet tall, wearing a transparent near-spherical helmet, a two-piece suit with tight-fitting legs that and merged into its toes. The body appeared to be rigid and cylindrical, with a torso round like a tin-can. It had no neck, proportionate legs, short arms ending in long and graceful four-fingered or three fingered hands. Its cranium was also slightly cylindrical, high, bald, with a white skull extending up and back from a wide, heart-shaped face. His eyes were large and compound like an insect's eyes. It had only holes for ears, two holes for a nose, and its mouth was a very small horizontal slit. The entity never spoke and never communicated anything. The entity strapped a black and square device to the soldier's chest. This made the soldier virtually weightless, and he was pulled towards a 150 feet disc-shaped apparatus posed in a nearby field. He and the entity floated up to the top of the disc, where a hatch opened, and they entered a transparent room. Inside, the soldier watched the Earth "fall away" through the flying saucer's transparent walls. The soldier told that he and the entity flipped over as they reached the "zone of gravitational neutrality between the Earth and the Moon." They continued past the Moon and on to Mars, where they quickly arrived and landed on a raised platform. The entity left the craft, and the soldier said he saw fields of big red flowers, canals with bridges across them, and other saucers with human captives leaving two in them. The entity then came back and the saucer took off. They passed a Martian satellite that "that looked like a tin ball," and 10 minutes later they were nearing Earth. Once returned on ground, again, the square black device was strapped to the soldier's chest, and he was floated to the ground. The entity pointed a pencil in the direction of the soldier's head, then a dog barked, which seemed to frighten the entity. No loss of memory followed for the man. The whole episode had taken about an hour. The journalist who wrote the article said he tried on several occasions to trick the soldier into contradicting himself, he did not, and thus he expressed that he was greatly impressed by his apparent truthfulness.

source: ufologie.patrickgross.org...
COMMENTS BY HUMANOIDLORD
please ignore the writer's (patrick gross) conclusion that this is a contactee tall tale
this it obviously isn't contactees told tales of peacefull beings that were human-like, while in this encounter the beings treat the witness like a animal and they look very similar to the greys that would surface 30 years later
of course this encouter has some elements (mars base, non-existent mars sattelite) wich makes it pretty obvious it is nothing more than a illusion by the great cosmic trickster
edit on 7-7-2018 by humanoidlord because: (no reason given)




posted on Jul, 7 2018 @ 08:37 PM
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This one is pretty interesting. We haven't found the red flowers,satellite, or bridges, but interesting just the same. If there is someone visiting it makes more sense they would come from our solar system, rather than from light years away.

Cosmic trickster indeed. I love stories of high strangeness. Skinwalker ranch is my favorite.
I've said before something is going on, a cosmic trickster is as valid a theory as any other.
Wonder if we will ever get to meet that dude. ( or dudett).



posted on Jul, 7 2018 @ 08:59 PM
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How could one find out where the planet Mars was in relation to Earth on 15/16 May, 1951? Would Mars have been in opposition like it is now, or on the other side of the sun? Interesting tale.

Asking for a friendly extraterrestrial...



posted on Jul, 7 2018 @ 09:05 PM
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a reply to: humanoidlord

Sound like the Soviets may have slipped him some Sandoz.
Poor bastard.



posted on Jul, 8 2018 @ 12:45 AM
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a reply to: humanoidlord

10 minute warp trip to another world, which obviously is not ”our” Mars, but something which is another reddish planet.

Makes you wonder.

Why aren’t these tin men visiting here more often?
What did they want from this soldier, which should have been worth all the trouble?
Why did they take him to this round-trip? Or did they?
Why would Earth-Moon gravity affect positioning inside the saucer, but not at their destination? And why would gravity have an affect at all? What made him think this was the case here?

This story really does not make much sense. In the article itself, it was at the time put in the hoax bin. Most likely written by the BC newssman himself. I recon this conclusion after 60 years still holds.



posted on Jul, 8 2018 @ 01:43 AM
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One specific part of the story seems a bit suspect, namely the part about the “canals with bridges over them”. I recal, it was thought in the early days of observation that mars had huge canals covering its surface. My point is that, if the obductee made up his story he needed credible elemets, so he incorporated whatever scientific information was available at that time, or at least available to him. Never realizing that the “canal theory” was (allready, or not much later) dismissed by the implementation of better optics.

Offcourse this is pure conjecture on my part.



posted on Jul, 8 2018 @ 07:43 AM
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Too bad other events were not known. My experience predates that, about 1942-3 of the little bald headed buggers surrounding my cot as I slept. Not so frightening, just did not like being immobilized. Never told anyone then as being in a foster home did not give an avenue for any recouse. I do remember how they left me with a bloody nose however.



posted on Jul, 8 2018 @ 09:08 PM
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a reply to: Topcraft

i am a fan of the second hypothesys
there is obviously nothing else (except maybe some simple unicellular life) on mars, so we are only left with the illusion option



posted on Jul, 8 2018 @ 09:09 PM
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a reply to: NightFlight

stellarium (i think thats how its spelled)?



posted on Jul, 8 2018 @ 09:10 PM
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a reply to: Wildmanimal

lol!
i dont think so



posted on Jul, 8 2018 @ 09:13 PM
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a reply to: deckdel

the only problem is that the story sounds so similar to the modern greys
where the hell did the newsman get this idea?



posted on Jul, 8 2018 @ 09:14 PM
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a reply to: 2Faced

i think by then the canal theory was already disproved as beings the mars albedo
nice observation though, somehow i missed that



posted on Jul, 8 2018 @ 09:16 PM
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a reply to: sailormon

wow how old are you?
there are many earlier experiences but they all (just like your's) surfaced after the grey era, wich makes me think they are false memories, this one however surfaced in 1957 (only 6 years later), so how did the soldier (or newsman) know about the greys?



posted on Jul, 8 2018 @ 10:16 PM
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a reply to: humanoidlord

The Soviets were in Eastern Austria
around 1955 "officially".

Their remaining "crew" still has a current
presence NOW.

They play all kinds of games.
Lots of Red Flowers on Mars.
SAAVY?

edit on 8-7-2018 by Wildmanimal because: Add Line



posted on Jul, 9 2018 @ 07:36 PM
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a reply to: Wildmanimal

i thought you were being sarcastic?!



posted on Jul, 13 2018 @ 11:37 PM
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a reply to: humanoidlord

Sarcastic with a hint of historical fact.

Live long and Prosper.



posted on Jul, 13 2018 @ 11:55 PM
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originally posted by: NightFlight
How could one find out where the planet Mars was in relation to Earth on 15/16 May, 1951? Would Mars have been in opposition like it is now, or on the other side of the sun? Interesting tale.

Asking for a friendly extraterrestrial...


MAY 1951

DATE SID.TIME SUN MOON MERCURY VENUS MARS JUPITER SATURN URANUS NEPTUNE PLUTO NODE

Tu 01 14:32:28 09TA49 10PI54 00TA27 18GE23 15TA10 02AR04 26VI12 06CN22 17LI35 17LE25 16PI26

We 02 14:36:24 10TA48 23PI53 29AR57 19GE33 15TA53 02AR17 26VI09 06CN25 17LI33 17LE25 16PI23

Th 03 14:40:21 11TA46 06AR39 29AR30 20GE43 16TA37 02AR30 26VI07 06CN27 17LI32 17LE25 16PI20

Fr 04 14:44:17 12TA44 19AR14 29AR08 21GE52 17TA20 02AR43 26VI04 06CN29 17LI30 17LE25 16PI16

Sa 05 14:48:14 13TA42 01TA39 28AR49 23GE01 18TA04 02AR55 26VI02 06CN32 17LI29 17LE25 16PI13

Su 06 14:52:10 14TA40 13TA55 28AR35 24GE11 18TA47 03AR08 25VI59 06CN34 17LI28 17LE25 16PI10

Mo 07 14:56:07 15TA38 26TA03 28AR26 25GE20 19TA31 03AR20 25VI57 06CN37 17LI26 17LE26 16PI07

Tu 08 15:00:03 16TA36 08GE04 28AR21 26GE29 20TA14 03AR33 25VI55 06CN40 17LI25 17LE26 16PI04

We 09 15:03:60 17TA34 19GE60 28AR21 27GE38 20TA57 03AR45 25VI53 06CN42 17LI23 17LE26 16PI00

Th 10 15:07:57 18TA33 01CN52 28AR26 28GE47 21TA41 03AR58 25VI51 06CN45 17LI22 17LE26 15PI57

Fr 11 15:11:53 19TA31 13CN43 28AR36 29GE55 22TA24 04AR10 25VI49 06CN48 17LI21 17LE27 15PI54

Sa 12 15:15:50 20TA28 25CN36 28AR49 01CN04 23TA07 04AR22 25VI47 06CN50 17LI19 17LE27 15PI51

Su 13 15:19:46 21TA26 07LE36 29AR08 02CN12 23TA50 04AR34 25VI46 06CN53 17LI18 17LE27 15PI48

Mo 14 15:23:43 22TA24 19LE47 29AR31 03CN20 24TA33 04AR46 25VI44 06CN56 17LI17 17LE28 15PI45

Tu 15 15:27:39 23TA22 02VI14 29AR58 04CN28 25TA16 04AR58 25VI43 06CN59 17LI15 17LE28 15PI41

We 16 15:31:36 24TA20 15VI02 00TA29 05CN36 25TA59 05AR10 25VI41 07CN01 17LI14 17LE28 15PI38

Th 17 15:35:32 25TA18 28VI16 01TA05 06CN44 26TA42 05AR22 25VI40 07CN04 17LI13 17LE29 15PI35

Fr 18 15:39:29 26TA16 11LI58 01TA44 07CN52 27TA24 05AR34 25VI39 07CN07 17LI12 17LE29 15PI32

Sa 19 15:43:26 27TA13 26LI09 02TA27 08CN59 28TA07 05AR45 25VI38 07CN10 17LI11 17LE30 15PI29

Su 20 15:47:22 28TA11 10SC46 03TA13 10CN06 28TA50 05AR57 25VI37 07CN13 17LI09 17LE30 15PI25

Mo 21 15:51:19 29TA09 25SC45 04TA03 11CN14 29TA32 06AR08 25VI36 07CN16 17LI08 17LE31 15PI22

Tu 22 15:55:15 00GE07 10SG56 04TA57 12CN21 00GE15 06AR19 25VI35 07CN19 17LI07 17LE32 15PI19

We 23 15:59:12 01GE04 26SG08 05TA54 13CN27 00GE58 06AR31 25VI34 07CN22 17LI06 17LE32 15PI16

Th 24 16:03:08 02GE02 11CP11 06TA54 14CN34 01GE40 06AR42 25VI34 07CN25 17LI05 17LE33 15PI13

Fr 25 16:07:05 02GE60 25CP57 07TA57 15CN40 02GE22 06AR53 25VI33 07CN28 17LI04 17LE34 15PI10

Sa 26 16:11:01 03GE57 10AQ19 09TA03 16CN47 03GE05 07AR04 25VI33 07CN32 17LI03 17LE34 15PI06

Su 27 16:14:58 04GE55 24AQ16 10TA13 17CN53 03GE47 07AR15 25VI33 07CN35 17LI02 17LE35 15PI03

Mo 28 16:18:55 05GE52 07PI47 11TA25 18CN59 04GE29 07AR25 25VI33 07CN38 17LI01 17LE36 15PI00

Tu 29 16:22:51 06GE50 20PI56 12TA40 20CN04 05GE12 07AR36 25VI32 07CN41 17LI00 17LE36 14PI57

We 30 16:26:48 07GE47 03AR46 13TA57 21CN10 05GE54 07AR47 25VI32 07CN44 16LI59 17LE37 14PI54

Th 31 16:30:44 08GE45 16AR20 15TA18 22CN15 06GE36 07AR57 25VI33 07CN48 16LI58 17LE38 14PI51



posted on Jul, 14 2018 @ 07:26 PM
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a reply to: charlyv

thanks!




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