Stopping Robert Mueller to protect us all

a reply to: MteWamp

the sweeter it will be to watch the anti-Trump crowd lose their minds when it's over.

That being said, that level of desperation can drive people to be dangerous. Very dangerous.

and there it is again....
the dems, the liberals, those crazy, oh so dangerous liberals!!
do you feel like you have to do something about us?? want to lock us all up?? round us up??
it's comments like these that makes me wonder just who is delusional around here....

a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

I believe it could be a possibility....
as I see it we are being fed two entirely different stories.
so there are several possibilities here...
my story might be true, or your story might be true....or what I really believe, that both stories have a tad bit of truth and a lot of half truths and non truths...
and while we are arguing over which set of facts are facts... they are ALL merrily proceeding with their plans while we all are basically clueless.
but, I don't see how anyone can be sure that they are right.

a reply to: Grambler

This opinion piece is terrible. The only thing it succeeds at is checking off every talking point from the pro-Trump echo chamber.

Alexander Downer played some role in the Australians giving the CF $25 mil in 2006. Sounds like money to the CHAI. The Australian government gave them like $100 million more than that through 2016 because they had partnerships.

It's funny that nobody has come up with *anything* else to point to substantiate this wild-eyed "theory" that they were such good friends that Alexander Downer would be willing to do... what? What exactly is the charge here? George Papadopoulos said what he said to Downer. What exactly is the impropriety on Downer's part? Did he make something up? Is he lying? No. It's just a unbelievably thin pretext for smearing Downer to undermine the legitimacy of the opening of the FBI's counterintelligence investigation.

It's unbelievable how far into the right-wing mainstream outright nuttery has made it.

The CF is not the Clinton's personal bank account. There's never been any evidence of them embezzling money from the CF. The money was funding, not some sort of secret payment that the Clinton's took out to buy golden toilets for the private jet they don't have.

But in Trumplandia, this is enough of a "connection" to make whatever claim anyone wants to. Imagine if the standards were applied to Trump? There would be op-ed after op-ed about how obvious it is that Trump personally colluded with Putin. There aren't and shouldn't be because that's not substantiated. I wouldn't say it and I can rattle off hundreds of links that are more suspicious, many of them involving overt corruption.

And this bit?

In no way would a fourth-hand report from a Maltese professor justify wholesale targeting of four or five members of the Trump campaign. It took Christopher Steele, with his funding concealed through false campaign filings, to be incredibly successful at creating a vast echo chamber around his unverified, fanciful dossier, bouncing it back and forth between the press and the FBI so it appeared that there were multiple sources all coming to the same conclusion.

First off, this "fourth-hand report" thing is a disingenuous irrational understatement. But it all starts with the disbelief in Russian interference with Trump supporters. Specifically, you have suspended belief in Russian hacking based on repetition of a small number of memes and ignoring gobs of narrative conflicting information.

Everything about how this # played out with Misfud and the "very attractive" mystery Russian who was introduced as "Putin's niece" apparently, absolutely reeks of tradecraft. Misfud finds out that Papadopoulos is a Trump FP advisor and all of a sudden this mysterious Russian woman enters the picture, telling Papadopoulos that she can arrange meetings with top Russian officials.

There's emails with all of this in it. How did this come to be? Can you honestly say that it doesn't smell a least a little like recruitment? Seeing if there was an in somehow or someway to use Papadopoulos?

Misfud tells Papadopoulos that he's heard from Russians that they have thousands of emails that they're going to use to hurt Clinton's campaign. Misfud does have some Russian connections (and not tenuous ones from 2006) that are public record.

Mind you, this is all AS the hacking was occurring. He tells Downer about this in a bar a month or so later. Then the existence of the hack is revealed. And God only knows what embellishing Papadopoulos did as he was telling this story.

I don't think that it's somehow suspicious that Downer would relay the substance of this encounter. And given the unusual circumstances, I don' think it's suspicious that the FBI opened a counterintelligence investigation.

As for the rest of the above, it didn't take the dossier anything. Hell, it's right in Nune's stupid memo that the counterintelligence investigation originated with the Papadopoulos info. They didn't even get the dossier for another month or six weeks or something. Speaking of the Nunes memo, he's alluding to a claim that has been disputed about the Isikoff story being used to substantiate the dossier. Which doens't even make sense if you read the article.

The whole thing would be fascinating if it weren't so disturbing. Like this:

Rather than a fair, limited and impartial investigation, the Mueller investigation became a partisan, open-ended inquisition that, by its precedent, is a threat to all those who ever want to participate in a national campaign or an administration again.

Huh? The Mueller investigation has become partisan? How did it? What evidence is there of this transpiring? Oh wait, that's right, people on the team or Democrats/have given to Democrats. So of course they're all Democrat hitmen. People with no ethics, no morals, who were only chosen for their allegiance to Democrats, not because they're all the best most qualified people to do the job. Oh, that's right they are.

The Mueller investigation is open-ended? Where's that coming from? An arbitrary notion of how long the investigation should take based on absolutely no real knowledge of the investigation itself? That's rational? That's reasoned? And just today I saw Giuliani was blabbing all over that the Mueller Team hopes to have one major part of the investigation concluded by specific date.

And what's really bizarre is how it's all conflated — the FBI's counterintelligence investigation is not the Mueller investigation.

It's just like how when the FBI raided Cohen with warrants obtained by the USAO-SDNY, a bunch of Trump supporters were yammering about how "Mueller had gone too far" blah blah. Or how when that SAR was released, a lot of Trump supporters were saying it was a leak from the Mueller team. What was revealed by the reporting though, in public statements from the companies, was that Mueller's team had actually questioned them SIX MONTHS earlier.

And not a peep had leaked out. Yet I hear constantly in vague whines about the "leaks" that are believed to come from the Mueller team.

But then again, look at the thrust of this polemic. And look at the garbage from literally-makes-#-up True Pundit squarely on the front page of ATS. Conflation isn't a problem because "deep state." Because "establishment elites." Because "Obama administration." Because Trump the Innocent is the perpetual victim of massive all encompassing conspiracy. Anyone who isn't wearing a MAGA hat it part of it too. It's the FBI/CIA/DNC/NSA/NWO/Soros/Clinton/Obama/CNN/NYT/WaPo/AMAZON/Bezos/Antifa/RINO/Never Trump/Agenda 21/Gobalist/MI6/GCHQ/Illuminati/Establishment/Google/YouTube/Twitter/Not-real-Americans/Leftist/Liberal/Commie/Progressive/Comey/Mueller MEGA CONSPIRACY.

You can all live in this alternate reality but you can't expect the rest of us to join you. If they prematurely end the Mueller investigation based on this horse#, there will be hell to pay.

a reply to: theantediluvian

pro-Trump echo chamber.

is that anyone who doesnt like CNN ?

wild-eyed "theory"

that you dont approve ?

It's just a unbelievably thin pretext for smearing Downer to undermine the legitimacy of the opening of the FBI's counterintelligence investigation.

Downers an American Lacky, always has been... funny because he himself is a has been. He's simply doing what he's told

right-wing mainstream outright nuttery

Sounds like the whole ''deplorables'' remark.. if you dont believe me, then you are a batsh*t crazy rightwin nut

The CF is not the Clinton's personal bank account. There's never been any evidence of them embezzling money from the CF.

That you're willing to accept?

But in Trumplandia,

there's that maturity we love in debates.. please ask again why not takes what you say seriously?

There's emails with all of this in it

I love it when a Clinton stooge brings up ''emails'' as if there is something illegal going on - yet... cant imagine anything illegal going on in the emails Clinton destroyed under subpheona

I don' think it's suspicious that the FBI opened a counterintelligence investigation.

Of course not.. you read the dossier online and loved it... you still think Russia rigged the election... how did Russia rig the election exactly?

The Mueller investigation has become partisan? How did it? What evidence is there of this transpiring? Oh wait, that's right, people on the team or Democrats/have given to Democrat

Strzok, Page, Mccabe, Comey.... but yes.. please... all this is just peaceful Democrats donating

The Mueller investigation is open-ended?

didnt a judge even tell Mueller he has no legal basis to be investigating xyz.. yet he does? sure sounds open ended.

FBI/CIA/DNC/NSA/NWO/Soros/Clinton/Obama/CNN/NYT/WaPo/AMAZON/Bezos/Antifa/RINO/Never Trump/Agenda 21/Gobalist/MI6/GCHQ/Illuminati/Establishment/Google/YouTube/Twitter/Not-real-Americans/Leftist/Liberal/Commie/Progressive/Comey/Mueller MEGA CONSPIRACY.

Nah, just a handful of left overs from Obamas admin and the Clinton camp who thought they could break the law, win the election and cover it up.. but guess what... Clinton Lost HAHAHA!

You can all live in this alternate reality but you can't expect the rest of us to join you.

If this is your reality, strap me in for a one way ticket.. you are a lost cause.

This was fun, i can see why you carry on like this

Like I said before....


I am not holding my breath waiting on the IG report.


It may not be the big bombshell that everyone is hoping for.


I do hope it is, but I will hold my reservations until it is actually released.

originally posted by: dawnstar
"after a year of investigation"....
how often has planned parenthood been investigated for "selling baby parts? how many different investigations were done in this last round and how long did those investigations last. did they find any wrong doing on the part of planned parenthood?
have yous accepted their findings yet, or are yous still screaming to defund them and for more investigations?
how about hillary clinton? how many investigations have there been on her over the years, how long has these investigations lasted? so where are the charges against her? and are yous still screaming for more investigations?

but, oh no, not trump, it needs to end now, heck it needed to end on day one!!!
and all of a sudden, the investigators are all deep state and can't be trusted.

How ignorant does one have e to be to ignore all them “investigations”

The ones that were sued stopped and trashed in the press?

Despite words from their own mouth.

Over lunch.

a reply to: theantediluvian

Just reading through looking for debate on the topic and came across this.

Why type so many words then ruin the effort by sprinkling in ad homs? Calling your opponents crazy does nothing but castrate your argument?

a reply to: dawnstar

Man, why do poeple have to use logical fallacy so much? Seriously? Care to comment on the OP, or just try and dismiss it with cheap parlor word magic? I will entertain your straw men, only to light them up, and watch them burn.

Planned Parenthood wasn't running for office. They do sell baby body parts. They use loopholes and selective wording to keep the appearance of legal operation. Defunding happening, so I think enough investigations have happened.

Hillary? I think we know exactly how her investigations were handled and why she has stayed immune. Her day is fast approaching. She is an enemy to freedom, and will face her crimes now she has lost her fixers.

Where is the evidence? Who colluded? And before you waste our time with the indictments so far:

Carter Page will probably be exposed as a "plant" soon, given the ruse that he was a target of the FBI counterintel op. Just a few months before, his testimony as an informant for the FBI was used to win a conviction in another criminal prosecution case for the U.S.

Manafort was indicted on charges that he had already been investigated for and exonerated back in 2005, with the exoneration being signed by none other than Rod Rosenstein.

Flynn pled guilty to charges that the FBI said he didn't commit. Why would he do that?

And the Russian troll farm showed up and their lawyer called for discovery and your man Mueller, after all this time was completely unprepared. The judge denied his request for more time to prepare his case.

So there is your answer, get on board or at least come back with a red herring or something besides a strawman. Thanks.

a reply to: Novaroc

Well said.

A star for you.

Welcome to the new normal if this farce doesn't end soon.

Even though the republicans hate trump, they wont let the democrats get away with this without retaliation so if the next democrat president has so much as a hair out of place the republicans will open investigation after investigation, then of course the democrats wont let that go unanswered etc etc into the future.

originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: Grambler



It's funny that nobody has come up with *anything* else to point to substantiate this wild-eyed "theory" that they were such good friends that Alexander Downer would be willing to do... what? What exactly is the charge here? George Papadopoulos said what he said to Downer. What exactly is the impropriety on Downer's part? Did he make something up? Is he lying? No. It's just a unbelievably thin pretext for smearing Downer to undermine the legitimacy of the opening of the FBI's counterintelligence investigation.

The use of the Papadopolous story for opening this investigation is asinine for many reasons as I outline here.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

In short, a drunk low member of trumps team tells a clinton friend that a russian told him they had dirt in the form of emails on hillary. Nevermind that russian didnt say anything about a hack, didnt say the emails were from the dnc (and many people hacd been assuming or warning for months that russians or others may have hacked hillarys emails from her server), and that Papadopoulos made no mention of giving anything to the russians fro these emails in any way.

Nope, all it takes to start a counter intel investigation onto a political opponent from the Obama admin is a clinton frined saying a drunk said a russian may have dirt on hillary.

Oh and btw, we have schumer saying the intel community would find "6 ways from sunday" to get trump, and after he said that we have proof that the intel community didnt like trump (brennan clapper, mccabe, comey, strzok, etc.) and did shady things.

So this must prove schumer had inside knowledge of these things happening right? And this justifies wirteaps, fisa warrants, phones records being taken, informants being sent to contact schumers people, unmaskings, etc., roght?

I mean, if a russian saying they had emails of dirt on hillary is proof this russian knew the Krelin hacked the dnc, then schumers claaim must be proof the DNC knew that the intel community was out to get trump.

So no doubt you will be calling for an investigation into them.

The CF is not the Clinton's personal bank account. There's never been any evidence of them embezzling money from the CF. The money was funding, not some sort of secret payment that the Clinton's took out to buy golden toilets for the private jet they don't have.

But in Trumplandia, this is enough of a "connection" to make whatever claim anyone wants to. Imagine if the standards were applied to Trump? There would be op-ed after op-ed about how obvious it is that Trump personally colluded with Putin. There aren't and shouldn't be because that's not substantiated. I wouldn't say it and I can rattle off hundreds of links that are more suspicious, many of them involving overt corruption.

Yes l;ets imagine that. Maybe it would look like trumps lawyer getting raided, andd near 24/7 coverage of discussion of this lawyers money being used to pay a porn star, or how this lawyer getting money somehow implies trump did pay for play or something.

SO in your world, trumps lawyer getting money is more of a worth while connection than the Clintons own foundation getting money?

First off, this "fourth-hand report" thing is a disingenuous irrational understatement. But it all starts with the disbelief in Russian interference with Trump supporters. Specifically, you have suspended belief in Russian hacking based on repetition of a small number of memes and ignoring gobs of narrative conflicting information.

Yes we know russian trolls used pokemon and supported gay rights, and somehow that stole the election for hillary.

You guys keep sayinng that, but never show us how, even though all pof the nefarious ads have been released.

As far as hacking the DNC, you yourself have admitted it could have been someone setting russia up, though you doubt it.

You or no one else has shown no proof whatsoever that Putin or his government somehow oredered this hack. You have failed to come up with any sort reason why the dnc didnt want the fbi to see the server, or why the fbi didnt insist on it.

You have bought the word of a dnc paid firm that the russians did it, because in your mind these super sophisticated russians spies with the power to use a handful of facebook trolls to steal an election and infiltrate trump associates in such a high level accidentally left their signature on the hacks.

Everything about how this # played out with Misfud and the "very attractive" mystery Russian who was introduced as "Putin's niece" apparently, absolutely reeks of tradecraft. Misfud finds out that Papadopoulos is a Trump FP advisor and all of a sudden this mysterious Russian woman enters the picture, telling Papadopoulos that she can arrange meetings with top Russian officials.

There's emails with all of this in it. How did this come to be? Can you honestly say that it doesn't smell a least a little like recruitment? Seeing if there was an in somehow or someway to use Papadopoulos?

Mifsud also has connections to US intel and EU countries intel.

But lets follow your logic through. You are telling me that Putin or someone in the russian government tells a maltese professr that they have hacked the DNC, in the hopes that he can run in to a low level trump team member, and pass that info to him to form some sort of quid pro quo?

This is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard. So according to you, the russians had a direct pipeline to people like manafort (trumps campaign manager) and (i think maybe you have said this, others certainly have) Carter page, yet they roll the dice by telling a professor that is best friends with a hillary supporting EU mp that they have hacked the dnc in hopes of him snagging a low level trump[ team member and setting up some sort of deal?

Unreal.

And if this smells of setup, wouldnt it also smell of s setup that mifsud and downer both have connections to hillary (mifsud through his connections to his friend pitella), and then the added factor that now known fbi informant Stephen halper just happens to then a few months later pay Papadopoulos for some work while asking "hey how about russians hacking the dnc?"




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originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: Grambler


As for the rest of the above, it didn't take the dossier anything. Hell, it's right in Nune's stupid memo that the counterintelligence investigation originated with the Papadopoulos info. They didn't even get the dossier for another month or six weeks or something. Speaking of the Nunes memo, he's alluding to a claim that has been disputed about the Isikoff story being used to substantiate the dossier. Which doens't even make sense if you read the article.

First I have alreaady shown how the Papadopoulos (GP) story being used to start the investigation is a joke.

Yes the dossier was a critical part. Explain to me how the GP story led to a wiretap on carter poage? In your mind, it doesnt matter this wiretap was given in large part because of the hillary paid oppo research (sourced from kremlin agents) because a drunk GP said a russian may have dirty emails on hillary?

As for the Isikoff, story, I believe both Grssly and nunes memo said this story was sourced in the fisa applicaation. I dont recall the dems saying this wasnt the case.

Huh? The Mueller investigation has become partisan? How did it? What evidence is there of this transpiring? Oh wait, that's right, people on the team or Democrats/have given to Democrats. So of course they're all Democrat hitmen. People with no ethics, no morals, who were only chosen for their allegiance to Democrats, not because they're all the best most qualified people to do the job. Oh, that's right they are.

Hahaha! Yep sure they are!

I mean, Mueller must have thoroughly betted anyone he had on his team. There is no way he would hire anyone who held an animus toward trump and even give the appearance of imporpriety.

Oh except Peter strzok! Well just iognore that one though! I am sure all of the only clinton donors he hired are the best people and great, even the one that worked as a lawyer defending the clinton foundation!

The Mueller investigation is open-ended? Where's that coming from? An arbitrary notion of how long the investigation should take based on absolutely no real knowledge of the investigation itself? That's rational? That's reasoned? And just today I saw Giuliani was blabbing all over that the Mueller Team hopes to have one major part of the investigation concluded by specific date.

Oh I am sorry, i thought you were following along with the jinvestigation.

Herev let me break it down for you.

The investigation was supposed to be into Trump russian collusion.

Now it looks at things like obstruction of justice, colluding with ukrainans in 2012 (with the podesta group and otehrs) before trump was a candidate, trumps fincials going more than a decade back, meetings with leaders from countries that have nothing to do with russia, etc.

I would say that is pretty open ended. Not to mention they handed off potential payments to a porn star to the fed ion NY.

Oh and a judge has even questioned the scope of Muellers investigation.

But you go on pretending its not open ended when its clear to see that it is.

And not a peep had leaked out. Yet I hear constantly in vague whines about the "leaks" that are believed to come from the Mueller team.

I will get to this gem ion the next post

But then again, look at the thrust of this polemic. And look at the garbage from literally-makes-#-up True Pundit squarely on the front page of ATS. Conflation isn't a problem because "deep state." Because "establishment elites." Because "Obama administration." Because Trump the Innocent is the perpetual victim of massive all encompassing conspiracy. Anyone who isn't wearing a MAGA hat it part of it too. It's the FBI/CIA/DNC/NSA/NWO/Soros/Clinton/Obama/CNN/NYT/WaPo/AMAZON/Bezos/Antifa/RINO/Never Trump/Agenda 21/Gobalist/MI6/GCHQ/Illuminati/Establishment/Google/YouTube/Twitter/Not-real-Americans/Leftist/Liberal/Commie/Progressive/Comey/Mueller MEGA CONSPIRACY.

You can all live in this alternate reality but you can't expect the rest of us to join you. If they prematurely end the Mueller investigation based on this horse#, there will be hell to pay.

Its statements like this that let me know you are getting nervous.

Lots of profanity and strawmen in this post.

But I assume then you are totally confident the IG report will totaally exonerate the FBI and intel people for there handling of the clinton case (which is just the first IG report that is coming out)

If not, you are going to look might foolish with your rant here, and it wilkl seem as if you are the one in the alternate reality.

originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: Grambler


And not a peep had leaked out. Yet I hear constantly in vague whines about the "leaks" that are believed to come from the Mueller team.

Yep you are right, not a peep from Muellers team has leaked out!

Oh wait.

Regardless, leaks from vaguely-described sources about the special counsel’s probe, avenues investigators are pursuing, witnesses they are interviewing, and Mueller’s strategy have generated many exclusive reports by the New York Times, the Washington Post, and other news outlets.

Among the developments that have been leaked:

June 3, 2017: The Associated Press revealed Mueller’s team had taken over a criminal probe of former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort.

July 22, 2017: Two sources claiming direct knowledge told Reuters Mueller’s investigators were hoping to use evidence of money laundering or other financial crimes to pressure Manafort to cooperate in the collusion probe.

August 3, 2017: Citing "people familiar with the matter," the Wall Street Journal reported a grand jury had been impaneled by Mueller. White House attorney Ty Cobb said at the time he was unaware of the grand jury’s existence.

August 9, 2017: The Washington Post reported FBI agents conducted a predawn raid of Manafort’s Virginia home on July 26 to seize documents and other materials related to Mueller’s investigation. According to the Post, people familiar with the search said a warrant sought financial records and the evidence collected included binders Manafort had prepared for his congressional testimony.

August 24, 2017: "A source close to the investigation" provided Fox News with new details of the raid of Manafort’s house and claimed it was “heavy-handed, designed to intimidate.”

August 25, 2017: "People familiar with the matter" informed the Wall Street Journal that Mueller was investigating Flynn’s involvement in a private effort to obtain Hillary Clinton’s email from Russian hackers.

August 28, 2017: According to NBC News, three sources said Mueller’s investigators were focused on Trump’s role in writing a response to media reports about a meeting between campaign officials and Russians at Trump Tower in June 2016.

September 1, 2017: The Washington Post reported Mueller’s investigators had a copy of a draft letter prepared by Trump aide Stephen Miller to justify the firing of Comey in May 2017.

September 20, 2017: Emails reportedly turned over to Mueller’s team and Senate investigators leaked to the Washington Post revealed that Manafort offered to provide private briefings to a Russian billionaire with ties to the Kremlin during the 2016 campaign.

October 4, 2017: Reuters cited three "sources familiar with the investigation" saying that Mueller’s team had taken over the FBI’s inquiries into a dossier of allegations regarding Trump’s Russia ties compiled by former British spy Christopher Steele. Two officials also reportedly told Reuters Mueller was looking into whether Manafort or others helped the Kremlin target hacking efforts and social media posts to influence the election.

October 27, 2017: "Sources briefed on the matter" told CNN that the first charges in Mueller’s investigation had been filed under seal. The following Monday, charges were unsealed Manafort and campaign aide Robert Gates, as well as a guilty plea by former adviser George Papadopoulos.

November 5, 2017: NBC News reported multiple sources said Mueller had enough evidence to bring charges against Flynn and his son. According to NBC, the FBI was also investigating a possible effort by Flynn to extradite a Muslim cleric in the U.S. whom Turkish President Recep Erdogan blamed for a coup attempt.

November 16, 2017: The Wall Street Journal cited a "person familiar with the matter" reporting that Mueller's team had subpoenaed Russia-related documents from Trump's campaign, including documents and emails written by several campaign officials.

December 2, 2017: Multiple "people familiar with the matter" told the Washington Post that former top counterintelligence official Peter Strzok was removed from Mueller’s team because of anti-Trump texts between him and an FBI attorney with whom he was having an affair. Details of many of those texts, which were under investigation by the Department of Justice Inspector General’s Office, have since been leaked to various media outlets.

January 2, 2018: A source detailed the physical characteristics, clothing, race, and gender of grand jury members to the New York Post and alleged that the grand jury room “looks like a Bernie Sanders rally.”

February 17, 2018: CNN cited anonymous sources stating that Gates was close to negotiating a plea deal with Mueller and that new charges against Manafort were being prepared. Less than a week later, Gates entered a guilty plea to conspiracy and lying to the FBI, and a superseding indictment was filed against Manafort.

February 27, 2018: CNN reported that three "people familiar with the matter" said Mueller had recently questioned witnesses about Trump’s business activities in Russia and negotiations surrounding a potential Trump Tower in Moscow.

February 28, 2018: An unnamed former Trump campaign aide told CNN Mueller’s team asked about comments former White House Communications Director Hope Hicks made during her interview with investigators about possible contacts between the campaign and Russian operatives.

March 2, 2018: Witnesses and others familiar with the investigation reportedly told NBC News Mueller’s team was asking questions about Trump son-in-law Jared Kushner’s business ties. The following week, NBC cited sources familiar with the matter saying Qatari officials withheld damaging information about the United Arab Emirates’ influence on Kushner from Mueller.

March 3, 2018: According to the New York Times, Mueller was looking into attempts by the United Arab Emirates to buy political influence on Trump and the role of Lebanese-American businessman George Nader.

March 4, 2018: Axios obtained a copy of a subpoena sent to a former Trump campaign official by Mueller’s team. Sam Nunberg later confirmed he was the source and spoke extensively to the media about the investigation.

March 7, 2018: "People familiar with the matter" told the Washington Post Mueller had evidence from a cooperating witness that a secret meeting in Seychelles between a Trump ally and a Russian official prior to inauguration was an attempt to establish a back channel between the administration and the Kremlin.

March 15, 2018: The New York Times reported that Mueller had subpoenaed documents from the Trump Organization.

April 9, 2018: The New York Times learned federal investigators had raided Trump attorney Michael Cohen’s office and hotel room. Hours later, sources told the Washington Post Cohen was under investigation for possible bank fraud and campaign finance violations.

April 30, 2018: The New York Times obtained a list of questions Mueller wanted to ask Trump. According to the Times, the list was prepared by Trump’s attorneys after speaking to investigators but it was not given to reporters by Trump's legal team.

wjla.com...

Not a peep! hahahahahaha!!!

originally posted by: Agit8dChop

originally posted by: dawnstarhow about hillary clinton? how many investigations have there been on her over the years, how long has these investigations lasted? so where are the charges against her? and are yous still screaming for more investigations?

I know you are deliberately being ignorant but ill bite..

The Hillary 'investigations' were run by Comey, Mccabe, Strzok, Lynch and their ilk.

Evidence has proven they were all involved in a conspiracy to

1) Let Hillary Skate
2) Frame Trump

For you to sit there and say Clintons innocent because the FBI and DOJ said so, is the height of ignorance.

So, just curious... how has Trump been framed. I'm curious.

originally posted by: dawnstar


and there it is again....
the dems, the liberals, those crazy, oh so dangerous liberals!!
do you feel like you have to do something about us?? want to lock us all up?? round us up??
it's comments like these that makes me wonder just who is delusional around here....

I find it really annoying that you're whining like this when the vast majority of US media is geared towards demonizing the political opposition to Democrats as somehow a danger to the country. Yet here you are playing the victim.

originally posted by: DoubleDNH


So, just curious... how has Trump been framed. I'm curious.

Maybe you need to do some reading? It seems you're far behind where the story has gone. This is the scenario being described by Rep. Devin Nunes and Rep. Jim Jordan. This isn't something this guy just came up with.

I think Giuliani is negotiating with a whole bunch of people to save hides everywhere. Lots of things going on to either stop it all or move forward and really screw things up.

Do they want to play nice and survive or is this just the beginning of the mess.

Just a question, would there had been an investigation into Russian Collusion if Trump had lost the election? That answer can answer a whole lot of questions.

Oh and I didnt mention, the author of this piece wasnt some "right wng nut job" but was actually Hillarys cheif adviser in her 2008 campaign.

originally posted by: Ahabstar
Just a question, would there had been an investigation into Russian Collusion if Trump had lost the election? That answer can answer a whole lot of questions.

No. There is only ever a conspiracy when Democrats lose.

originally posted by: Grambler
Oh and I didnt mention, the author of this piece wasnt some "right wng nut job" but was actually Hillarys cheif adviser in her 2008 campaign.

Not sure they are prepared to see that.