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Europe will break off from the US

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posted on May, 18 2018 @ 03:55 PM
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originally posted by: Middleoftheroad

originally posted by: mikkelno

originally posted by: Middleoftheroad
Europe has no say in world affairs without the US. So I say this is just a pipe dream, so keep on dreaming.


Maybe because the US decides to speak on behalf of Europe. We are nothing but lapdogs to the US when it comes to foreign policies.


It's because of our military might. We can't even get all the European countries to put in their fair share (2% GDP) for the safety we provide, so you should be our lapdogs in my opinion.


Why spend 2% when we have no immideate threats to our continent? The European military is not used for the original purpose of NATO but rather to support the US in its adventures in the middle east - a place the European countries should not be in




posted on May, 18 2018 @ 03:57 PM
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originally posted by: DISRAELI

originally posted by: mikkelno
i really hope Europe will cut its ties with the US and develop relations with closer neighbours and the Asian countries.

"Won't you come into my parlour? said the spider to the fly".
Yes, Russia has been trying to manage the affairs of western Europe, on and off, since about 1740 (the War of the Austrian Succession). No doubt they would love an invitation to join the European Union and seize control in a more legal way.


Nonsense. The ideals of coorporation is unknown to the US. You have shown that time and time again. The same thing was said about Germany when it entered the union. All baseless conspiracy theories



posted on May, 18 2018 @ 03:58 PM
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originally posted by: mikkelno

originally posted by: rickymouse
Russia will be happy to annex you guys without the US support. go ahead, break off diplomatic relations with us, you need us more than we need you. What would happen if the US quit buying European products, your economies would crumble. China can not afford to buy your products, your prices are too high.

Be careful what you ask for, good thing you are not in charge of Europe, your own people would take you out if you were their leader. let your countries leaders work this out. You do not talk for all your people.


Russia is painted as the enemy because the US wants it to be. Russia does not thave the military capacity to even annex a country with the population of Ukraine, let alone wage war with Europe at the same time. Russian markets would be great for European trade.

I do not speak for anyone but myself in this post, no. People are slowly but surely changing their minds however.


Russia has more nukes that we do. They could level all of the big cities in Europe in a week if they want to. Of course, Russia only has that power because they have to to keep Europe and the USA from taking them over. Russia will do what it has to to protect itself, and Europe has lots of what they do not want their people to be like. They do not want the entitled Europeans to screw up their society. They could easily take back Ukraine if it was their country to take back, they aren't afraid of Europe or the USA. They took Crimea, nobody stopped them.

Wake up, I think you are experiencing a fantasy dream.



posted on May, 18 2018 @ 04:00 PM
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Europe will"Break off" from the US...until our military and economic might is required in the next world war.Which will probably be started by Europe like the last two.
See ya!



posted on May, 18 2018 @ 04:02 PM
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originally posted by: rickymouse

originally posted by: mikkelno

originally posted by: rickymouse
Russia will be happy to annex you guys without the US support. go ahead, break off diplomatic relations with us, you need us more than we need you. What would happen if the US quit buying European products, your economies would crumble. China can not afford to buy your products, your prices are too high.

Be careful what you ask for, good thing you are not in charge of Europe, your own people would take you out if you were their leader. let your countries leaders work this out. You do not talk for all your people.


Russia is painted as the enemy because the US wants it to be. Russia does not thave the military capacity to even annex a country with the population of Ukraine, let alone wage war with Europe at the same time. Russian markets would be great for European trade.

I do not speak for anyone but myself in this post, no. People are slowly but surely changing their minds however.


Russia has more nukes that we do. They could level all of the big cities in Europe in a week if they want to. Of course, Russia only has that power because they have to to keep Europe and the USA from taking them over. Russia will do what it has to to protect itself, and Europe has lots of what they do not want their people to be like. They do not want the entitled Europeans to screw up their society. They could easily take back Ukraine if it was their country to take back, they aren't afraid of Europe or the USA. They took Crimea, nobody stopped them.

Wake up, I think you are experiencing a fantasy dream.


But why would they? What would they gain from erasing European cities from the map? Any such use of nuclear weapons would cause an outcry around the world. That would be suicide for Russia. I think you have to wake up.



posted on May, 18 2018 @ 04:07 PM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: mikkelno


The United States is the European Union's largest combined import/export trade partner so it looks like you're going to have to suck it up.

Now go eat a Big Mac and send us some more French Cabernet.


Meh, French Cabernet tastes like dirt. U.S. versions are fruitier



posted on May, 18 2018 @ 04:09 PM
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originally posted by: mikkelno
Nonsense. The ideals of coorporation is unknown to the US. You have shown that time and time again.

What do you mean, "You"? I am not the U.S., and I have no American connections.
I am just an old student of history who is aware of Russia's three-century long mission to be "the gendarme of Europe".

Let me see.
1756, Russian armies move west to help the Austrians to subdue Prussia. That was co-operation?
1848 Russian armies move into into Hungary to suppress their rebellion against Austria. That was co-operation?
1863 Russian armies violently suppress the revolt in Poland. That was co-operation?
1956 Russian armies suppress the revolt in Hungary. That was co-operation?
1968 Russian armies move into Czechoslovakia to suppress the "Prague Spring". That was co-operation?
A pattern seems to be developing here. I find it difficult to believe that the leopard can change its spots.



posted on May, 18 2018 @ 04:10 PM
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a reply to: mikkelno

As not all the EU will break off from Iran. Not all EU nations would break off from the U.S.. Besides a few cheeses, I doubt Denmark would be missed in the slightest.

Peace be to you.



posted on May, 18 2018 @ 04:11 PM
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I think the USA will implode tbh seeing that they are nearly at each others throats with all this left right nonsense manufactured by everyone in power including trump Clinton Obama.
The people are being played to destroy themselves and each other.
Once upon a time ATS members would have realised this.
Shame.



posted on May, 18 2018 @ 04:11 PM
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originally posted by: DISRAELI

originally posted by: mikkelno
Nonsense. The ideals of coorporation is unknown to the US. You have shown that time and time again.

What do you mean, "You"? I am not the U.S., and I have no American connections.
I am just an old student of history who is aware of Russia's three-century long mission to be "the gendarme of Europe".

Let me see.
1756, Russian armies move west to help the Austrians to subdue Prussia. That was co-operation?
1848 Russian armies move into into Hungary to suppress their rebellion against Austria. That was co-operation?
1863 Russian armies violently suppress the revolt in Poland. That was co-operation?
1956 Russian armies suppress the revolt in Hungary. That was co-operation?
1968 Russian armies move into Czechoslovakia to suppress the "Prague Spring". That was co-operation?
A pattern seems to be developing here. I find it difficult to believe that the leopard can change its spots.


Did you forget the history of US "cooporation" as you just put it? How many years have the US been at peace?



posted on May, 18 2018 @ 04:14 PM
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originally posted by: nwtrucker
a reply to: mikkelno

As not all the EU will break off from Iran. Not all EU nations would break off from the U.S.. Besides a few cheeses, I doubt Denmark would be missed in the slightest.

Peace be to you.

well atleast Denmark hasn't been at war for most of its history like the US has. That would be one thing to remember us and admire us by.



posted on May, 18 2018 @ 04:14 PM
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a reply to: mikkelno

And your bacon.



posted on May, 18 2018 @ 04:15 PM
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a reply to: mikkelno

Works for me!



posted on May, 18 2018 @ 04:15 PM
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a reply to: RickyD

Russia did, and they are doing a lot better now. In fact they had a whole culinary and agricultural revolution because of it.



posted on May, 18 2018 @ 04:18 PM
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originally posted by: mikkelno
Did you forget the history of US "cooporation" as you just put it? How many years have the US been at peace?

"As I put it"? You brought in that word, I only corrected the spelling.
All I know is that the consistent savagery which the Russians have displayed towards their subject nations for the last two or three centuries is not to my taste.



posted on May, 18 2018 @ 04:22 PM
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originally posted by: rickymouse
Russia will be happy to annex you guys without the US support. go ahead, break off diplomatic relations with us, you need us more than we need you. What would happen if the US quit buying European products, your economies would crumble. China can not afford to buy your products, your prices are too high.

Be careful what you ask for, good thing you are not in charge of Europe, your own people would take you out if you were their leader. let your countries leaders work this out. You do not talk for all your people.


LOL. Annex isn’t probably the right word for what Russia would do with Europe without the USA. I believe that a more accurate term would be over run.



posted on May, 18 2018 @ 04:23 PM
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Well Europistan can go have fun in their multi-cultural socialist utopia from hell. Where they've already devolved their rights and honor into pathetic levels of cowardice and inferiority, while their women and children are raped and their ancestral culture and heritage are disintegrated.

We jumped ship, kicked your asses and started our own country. Then we turned around and saved your asses from getting kicked (twice)... Don't expect US to do the latter again.



posted on May, 18 2018 @ 04:23 PM
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a reply to: mikkelno


MAGA!!!!



posted on May, 18 2018 @ 04:23 PM
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originally posted by: DISRAELI

originally posted by: mikkelno
Did you forget the history of US "cooporation" as you just put it? How many years have the US been at peace?

"As I put it"? You brought in that word, I only corrected the spelling.
All I know is that the consistent savagery which the Russians have displayed towards their subject nations for the last two or three centuries is not to my taste.


If correcting my grammar is a thing you would do, and point out, kudos to you for loosing the argument.

Well that was the age of totalitarianism - not something unique to Russia. I remember stories of French, English, Japanese, Spanish and Portugise savagery. Oh and lets not forget the US savagery with which it is subduing middle eastern states like Iraq with indiscrimate bombing. And lets not forget about the slaughter of the native americans while we are at it.
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posted on May, 18 2018 @ 04:27 PM
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The Europeans don’t need the US anymore, they should break off and join Russia and China and the Brics countries to tell the US and Israel to go F__k yourself




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