To understand God you must understand Satan...

originally posted by: Raggedyman
And if a person is a Christian we are taught to love Jesus and everyone else, pay the devil no mind. Satan is of no account

That is a giant lie..and you know it.

Besides...that has never worked or changed the world.

Why do things that never succeed?

It is the Gods and Devils themselves ACROSS THE BOARD...that are of no account.

So afraid they can't do anything but meddle and control.

They will ALL be destroyed.

originally posted by: enlightenedservant
a reply to: throwaway115

You might want to add "according to x-religion" because this mindset has no relevance to Islam. In Islam, God's existence is completely independent of our Devil/Shaytan/Iblis, and Shaytan is literally nothing compared to God, not even as "much" as a speck of dust compared to the Sahara Desert.

We believe that God created existence, Angels, Jinn, and the other stuff. The Jinn were one of the few creations to have free will and God allowed a single Jinn to be exalted enough to be with His main Angels. That Jinn was Iblis. After God created Adam, He told all of His creations to bow to Adam. All of them did except for Iblis, who was too arrogant and said that he was better than Adam because he was made from fire while Adam was made from mud.

So God sentenced Iblis to eternal Hell, but Iblis begged for a temporary reprieve, which he was given. Iblis then said that he would use that temporary reprieve to prove that Adam and his offspring weren't worthy, to which God replied that He'd also sentence to Hell any that followed Iblis's ways. Iblis was then banished and now called "the Adversary" (aka Shaytan/Shaitan/Satan). Part of the story is told in Surah 7, Ayats 11 through 27 (Pickthall translation).

Nowhere does it claim that there needs to be some cosmic morality balance, that there must be both evil and righteousness, etc. We believe that this life is just a series of tests meant to gauge our spiritual dedication to God.

Which is as utterly foolish, meaningless, and mindbogglingly stupid AND evil.

Beliefs are unimportant, the truth can never be found with this train of thought.

Your religion along with all the rest will be erased from the Morphic field of all existence along with all the other religions that "serve" to torment and use us all.

originally posted by: rickymouse
Satan is one of gods sons. He is here to test us to see if we can graduate to a higher realm. If we are not tested how can we be judged as to our worth. Passing the test is not as easy as following along with society on the wrong path.

If you were running a much higher civilization would you let a pile of disruptive people come in and mess it up?

WE are in school, continually tested to find if we can go into the real society. What happens if we do not pass the test?

You will never see any proof of "real society".

Starred for Satan is God's son lol...his first born even haha.

But you will soon see that everyone beyond here is even more disruptive and actually is the cause of the problems ongoing here.

Again their time has about run out.

They will ALL face to what they have done to all levels of Creation.

a reply to: ParasuvO


What is the "morphic field" of all existence?

I think if things change, it will happen through the ways were all used to: political revolution.

The Earth and its inhabitants wont change - barring nuclear war and the devastation of our earthly environment. Only we will.

Everything our stupid religions and naive spiritualities speak of have to do with our social relationships and the beliefs/myths that have grown from that.

Religion is not, as one philosopher put it, about God. God is an abstraction; a 'far off' state that makes no sense of how we work - only "tormenting" those traumatized by life experiences with a sense of the 'wrongness' of the external world.

The causal logic is clear as day, but always ignored by the arrogance of the "self-first" mentality of gnosticism. Solipsitic thinking - ignoring social processes - is profoundly unscientific: we are, even if we seem not to be, built from the geometry of molecular self-organing processes in the physical world. Even our 'intentionality' is strewn from this fabric, and indeed, the movement of this fabric guides the direction of our intentionality.

I feel bad for people liek this; the Hitlers, the Ilyins, the Dugins: people who make categorical statements about "how reality is", not realizing that it is all relational - not 'relative': things are dialectically linked together so that early life trauma probabistically activates sadomasochistic religious narratives - which exist, and, since social-power and 'princely power' also exists, tend to become "tied together", and hence, the misfortune that comes with cavorting with social elites.

originally posted by: randyvs
a reply to: throwaway115

Without one you can't have the other?
How can you post such nonsense?

With out light all you have is darkness.
For the love of......

until two bits of darkness rub together and make a spark.

"By the delusion of the pairs of opposites, sprung from attraction and repulsion, Bharata, all beings walk this universe wholly deluded."

BhagavadGita 7:27

Beware the pairs of opposites!

Manifestation does not result from the interaction of TWO forces, but of three. This is fundamental psychospiritual science.

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: throwaway115
a reply to: InhaleExhale

Yes.

But I have things to say!

i hope you say them with a rational explanation to back them up.

I think you'll find this backs them up rationally.


You're welcome.