Star Wars Coming?

Posting from phone. Sorry.

Despite the mockery on social media, US President Donald Trump apparently has not rejected an idea of creating a Space Force. He said he is “seriously thinking” about making it a new military branch.

“We are actually thinking of a sixth [military branch], and that would be the Space Force,” the US leader said during a ceremony at the White House. He was presenting the annual Commander-in-Chief's Trophy to the Army football team, for its victory over both Air Force and Navy last year.

But what really got me thinking was this????:

Trump went on to say that the US is “getting very big in space, both militarily and for other reasons,” without going into further details.

Without going into further details??

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a reply to: CaptainBeno

link to story

I got yo back!

a reply to: CaptainBeno

The idea sounds cool and all and if we actually did that they better have freaking storm trooper suits! Or else I am going to start egging government building and putting slices of ham on there government vehicles.

a reply to: CaptainBeno

First of all it's not Trump's idea.

The idea of the space force is nothing new. Just this year the House of Representatives tried to create a sixth branch of the military in the 2018 National Defense Authorization Act, but the plan died in the Senate. Yesterday, however, Trump revived these hopes. “We have the Air Force, we’ll have the Space Force,” he said at a Marine Corps airbase.

lazy journalism is annoying.

moving on, here is why the house is proposing the idea.

One reason that superiority may erode is that disparate space-related efforts are scattered across the Army, Air Force, and Navy, not to mention intelligence officers, National Reconnaissance Office and Space and Missile Systems Center. Doug Loverro, a former DoD Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Space Policy, noted that fighting in space is different than fighting anywhere else, in the same way that the Navy prepares for unique combat at sea. “We lack that focus for space, one of our five main warfighting domains,” he said.

its not new that we are conducting military operations in "space" which probably includes anything above the max ceiling of "air breathing" vehicles.. anything above the airforce domain..

before the airforce the army was the airforce. the airforce didnt invent air warefare, and the "space force" didnt start "star wars"

you are better served thinking of earth wars from higher up than "star wars" in other words mostly space to ground operations. and mix in anti satellite steps.


the source:

Popular Mechanics

a reply to: CaptainBeno

Other reasons, could very well mean things like:

Commercialism
Exploration
Mining

It's a vague statement, but it doesn't really sound like anything to be worried about. While the Military point is already well known, it could/should be expanded on since space is the best place to put point defense systems for both planetary defense (i.e. space junk and asteroids falling on us) as well as for non-nuclear deterrents (i.e. the so-called Thor's Hammers and Spears of God).

It's a shame though that we don't put the amount behind NASA that we did during it's start. Not in dollar amounts, but in GDP percentages. Most NASA Engineers and Astrologists agree that if NASA had that kind of budget, we would be all over the solar system by now (both in manned and in-manned missions)

a reply to: CaptainBeno

Lesson learned from Reagan perhaps? Bankrupt the Russians one more time by tricking them into trying to compete with a superpower they don't have the money or resources to match?

a reply to: theantediluvian
LMAO that’s good! Did you just make that?

They've been building a 'space force' since Dubya. They might not talk about it on the "news", thus making Trump being up front about it make it seem like some new thing, but it isnt.

A space arms proliferation race the Department of Offense kick started long ago. Just like with AI / AGI (cyberspace arms race). Both started about the same time actually (right after 9/11, you know, to stop terrorists).

Both the Navy and the Air Force both have divisions that are directly concerned with space.
Air Force Space Command

a reply to: Allaroundyou

Yes I did. It was apparently too good for some people.

a reply to: Blue Shift

So does the Army.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: Blue Shift

So does the Army.

I guess the idea is to coordinate all these branches into a new branch. I can see where that would definitely help create more military spending. The economy loves that.

I had no idea it was so spread out creating all that redundancy. Merging it all together under one command makes sense to me.

a reply to: Blue Shift

It's far more to consolidate information and capabilities than to increase military spending. It's stupid to have all three services doing much the same thing and have different capabilities.

a reply to: Blaine91555

The Air Force has some interesting capabilities in regards to their command, but all three have some overlap. It's pretty interesting to see what each brings to the table.

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They need to do something about that logo though.

I'd think overlapping responsibilities would lead to bad things, not to mention the waste of money and resources.

a reply to: Blaine91555

It does, a lot, but it's one of those "We're not going to let the Navy handle our Intel" or "What does the Air Force know about currents and ship movement" things. The services will work together just fine, but they don't like to rely too much on each other for their behind the scenes work, because their priorities are completely different.

a reply to: Blaine91555

The first humans ever in space were russian.

That's a win that can never be taken from them.

originally posted by: Allaroundyou
a reply to: CaptainBeno

The idea sounds cool and all and if we actually did that they better have freaking storm trooper suits!

I feel sorry for any soldiers who are asked to fight a battle in space. There are no trees or foxholes or trenches for cover, so you're awfully exposed as in this scene from moonraker, just a sitting duck waiting to get blasted.