It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
originally posted by: Jesushere
pteridine This loud bang was just before the Penthouse collapsed both events are related. I don't know if the building was brought down by explosives, I keep an open mind on this event. Neocons were looking for an event like this to happen prior to 9/11.
Silverstein there no evidence he meant pull the firefighters out. Dan Nigro denies he spoke with Silverstein so who he spoke to is still unknown.
originally posted by: colang
Have you not listened to the first responders accounts regarding the sound of bombs ? How were the lobbies windows blown out and people with there skin hanging off in the lobby ...... do I need mention free fall speed collapse..... then the elephant in the room wtc7 office fires so paper and furnature fires bring a building down ?
originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Asktheanimals
One, there was no lack of rubble at the WTC. As documented by the loads of rubble taken to the lay down yards. Or the rubble pulled out of WTC basements.
Two, why would explosives make to little material. As in noticeable. That is more along the lines of Wood’s Dustification.
Three, where are all the loud booms from explosives indicative of explosions powerful enough to cut columns and throw beams?
Four, any demolitions shrapnel recovered from the WTC? The injured? Or with the human remains?
While the 78th and 79th floors bore the brunt of the damage, one of the B-25's engines fell down an elevator shaft and set off a major fire in the basement. The other engine hurtled across the building and tore through seven walls before emerging from the 33rd Street side of the tower. The debris crashed through the roof of a thirteen-story building across the street where another fire erupted. Other heavy wreckage, including the landing gear, also caused damage to the Empire State and nearby buildings while Stan Lomax reportedly saw part of a wing catapulting towards Madison Avenue.
An engine snapped an elevator cable while at least one woman was riding in the elevator car. The emergency auto brake saved the woman from crashing to the bottom, but the engine fell down the shaft and landed on top of it. Quick-thinking rescuers pulled the woman from the elevator, saving her life.
Gloria Pall worked for the United Service Organization's headquarters on the 56th floor.
"I was at the file cabinet and all of a sudden the building felt like it was just going to topple over," Pall said. "It threw me across the room, and I landed against the wall. People were screaming and looking at each other. We didn't know what to do. We didn't know if it was a bomb or what happened.
originally posted by: ParasuvO
Actually it has never been proven to be cut by a thermal lance.
It could have been perhaps...but since every picture taken directly after the collapse does not show any columns sticking up most of us would have to call bs.
originally posted by: ParasuvO
originally posted by: wmd_2008
a reply to: kloejen
WTC 7 had fires burning for several hours and damage done by the North Tower collapse.
20 floor rip on elevation facing north tower and other damage seen on this video.
20 floor rip lol care to post a pic of that horrible damage...
Why would some small exterior damage bother anything.
How did part of the tower fly all the way over there anyways?
No fire or flames visible in ANY of the beams that were smoking into dust as they flew.
originally posted by: DAVID64
I've always felt that we weren't being told the whole truth about 9/11.
Remember this : The United States government was complicit in an attack on American soil and willing to sacrifice 3,000 American lives on that day and countless others in the following war.... for profit.
originally posted by: Salander
a reply to: neutronflux
Whether or not the records were lost, or whatever you're trying to insinuate, has nothing to do with what happened there. It has no meaning, whether the records were lost or not. But they were lost. Enron too and probably others too.
Defense Finance and Accounting Service
The Defense Finance and Accounting Service (DFAS) is an agency of the United States Department of Defense (DOD), headquartered in Indianapolis, IN. DFAS was established in 1991 under the authority, direction, and control of the Under Secretary of Defense (Comptroller)/Chief Financial Officer to strengthen and reduce costs of financial management and operations within DOD. DFAS is responsible for all payments to servicemembers, employees, vendors, and contractors. It provides business intelligence and finance and accounting information to DOD decisionmakers. DFAS is also responsible for preparing annual financial statements and the consolidation, standardization, and modernization of finance and accounting requirements, functions, processes, operations, and systems for DOD.