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originally posted by: Lumenari
a reply to: Tempter
Odd that we have that "caravan" of illegals headed this way, through Mexico.
Our liberal friends on ATS will call this a "coincidence"
A wall would be nice about right now, TYVM.
Edited to add, a wall of USMC with a fire at will order would work in a pinch....
US taxpayers would be spending at least 500 times more on the wall than on the existing peace and security programs and more than 316 times more than we're projected to spend in Mexico altogether. How is that a good deal?!
Well, I could get a TV for free, too, much more "fiscally responsible"... but it wouldn't work. I think I would rather pay a few hundred dollars for one that works.
I could get a car that doesn't run for almost scrap iron price... $100-$200 maybe. Of course, that car wouldn't get me to work, or to a store, or anywhere else. Much more "fiscally responsible" than paying $1000 for something that actually moves from point A to point B under its own power, right? And OMG what are people thinking spending $40k for a new car that will continue to run for a few years without any trouble? Are they insane?
As for the "downfalls" you mention about the wall, we are trying to do a lot of that, most of which I agree with you that it needs to be done. How about the lottery VISA program, where we just take a shot that the guy coming in isn't a top Al Quaida operative? Trump is begging Congress to end that little fiasco, but Congress (mainly the Democrats) just keep blocking it.
Oh, and the 7 countries that Trump tried to (and eventually did) restrict VISAs from because they couldn't/wouldn't vet their people? Do you remember the national uproar over that?
Your complaint about the wall is wholly based on accusations that the wall is not the same bills you and others have blocked, along with complaints that spending more is "fiscally irresponsible" because what we have is cheaper, ignoring the fact it doesn't work.
Those are ridiculous examples in this context and you know it lol.
Republicans control both chambers of Congress
What does that have to do with Mexico and the stupid wall along the Mexican border? Was Mexico on that list? Nope!
Please explain to me how that stupid wall is going to stop cartel sales and cartel business in the US. Because unlike you, I showed links to the actual stats showing how much money was being used on security programs in Mexico. That stupid wall won't help infiltrate their organized crime rings; won't pay for informants to get intel on their operations; won't pay for joint training operations between US & Mexico organizations; won't provide security for US companies in Mexican territory; etc.
So how can you claim that spending 316 to 500 times more money on the wall will replace something that's "not working" when you don't appear to know where the current money is going in the first place? If you think the situation is bad now, then just wait until Mexican organizations and departments stop cooperating with us on the things I just mentioned.
Th programs we currently spend money on do "work", just not perfectly.
originally posted by: toysforadults
originally posted by: Asktheanimals
Mexicans have a lot of Spanish blood.
Where do they get the gall to complain about "European invaders?"
that's called racism and it's being taught and sanctioned in universities nationwide
From 1521, the Spanish conquest of the Aztec empire incorporated the region into the Spanish Empire, with New Spain its colonial era name and Mexico City the center of colonial rule. It was built on the ruins of the Aztec capital of Tenochtitlan and became the capital of New Spain.
originally posted by: chuckk
a reply to: MarlbBlack
In the movie, North America became uninhabitable due to cold but Mexico wouldn't let USA citizens into Mexico. If the Yellowstone Super Volcano ever explodes, the a USA migration could occur since the food supply would be disrupted for several years.