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Feeding the Children to Moloch

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posted on Apr, 2 2018 @ 05:16 AM
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En-uru-gal, or Nergal for short, Lord of the Great City, that which in popular imagination is known as Moloch from the rendering of Melqart as Lord of the City, the translation of the title Nergal into the Semitic, that which in popular imagination involves feeding children into a furnace.

It might be imagined that this involves the activities of some strange cult but in reality it is the basis for the entire military industrial complex, that it could be considered that everyone who sends their children into the mines and foundries, the military and heavy industry in general are feeding their children to Moloch, even that through this some are hardened and transformed, but that more often than not the result is death.





For them Melqart-Herakles was a major god, the patron god of Tyre. The name of their god, Melqart, is virtually a translation of the name Nergal; “ruler of the city” and “lord of the great city” respectively; There are several further pieces of evidence that suggest Melqart and Nergal were the same god.




Herakles also related to a title of Nergal;


“Herakles” is the western, non-Semitic pronunciation of Nergal/Erakal all Semitic inscriptions on statues of Herakles name Nergal, Melqart or Resheph. Nergal is the son of Ellil, head of the pantheon, or Anu, the sky god. there are variant writings of Nergal’s name which indicate a pronunciation Eragal and Erakal.


The origins of Nergal are humble, he was a God of mining and smelting and forging, a God of transformation through fire, as the God of casting culture his early motif was the double headed axe seen extensively throughout the Eastern Mediterranean, his place of origin the mines of Cilicia, he was the human or semi-Divine principle of such and literally tunneled his way into any underworld associations.


As a son of El-lil, Nergal was obviously an aspect of the early NW Semitic Pantheon which Israel looked to disassociate themselves with, as the God of mining/smelting/toxicity/plague/weapons/death was always somewhat problematic, but his cult had strongly developed in that region due to the merchants relationship with the trade in precious ores and the quasi mass industrial practises of the Phoenicians totally depended on such so he was their principle Deity of the military industrial complexities, and others also;


Nergal was the patron god of smelting in Assyria from at least the 9th century onwards. At the Gate of the Foundry Workers which was one of the main entrances to the city of Assur on the middle Tigris, two maceheads were found of the 9th and 8th centuries, inscribed with a dedication to Nergal. In a ritual instruction text on a 7th century tablet there are instructions for the end of campaigns This information implies that Nergal was the patron god of foundry workers, and the metal was stored either in his temples, or at other places such as city gates that were dedicated to him.

Various cult centres of Nergal are known in Mesopotamia proper. Kutha is the best attested; He has shrines at Ninevah and Nimrud. At Assur he shared the temple of Assur with his consort Allat . So closely connected were Assur and Nergal there that the priests from a single family served both deities.


It's obviously the case that a casting God is concerned with transformation, that one extracts the crude ore, refines that and smelts it, the resulting artifact having made the process worthwhile, and thus the transformation through fire was such a spiritual metaphor, perhaps not best taken literally but that certainly occurred depending perhaps on how strongly one desired change, the principle involved was that of consecration.



Any religious cult is at it's strongest and most developed in the region that it originated and in this case that is of the Indo-European Deity Sandon/Sandas/Santa of Tarsus in Cilicia, were the pyre relating to his cult is often seen on classical coinage, this was also the basis of the funeral tradition of Roman Emperors, the transformation within the flames toward Divinity were the eagle atop the pyre was the conduit of the soul, the cult of Sandon was a cult of resurrection;




Here an ancient rite, which helps us understand the meaning of these rites of fire, was kept. In this city there were two major gods, one young Sandan , who was identified by the Greeks with Heracles or Hercules and another one very old called Ball-Tarz , who was identified with Zeus.



Every year it was held in their honor in the square a big festival with singing and dancing. A great pyre was built, where it was stood the statue of the god, which was burned solemnly. The ceremony, at the beginning of funeral character, was followed immediately by the wild and exuberant celebration of the resurrection of the god; and the exultant joy continued the grief of the faithful.




Fire Festivals

There is only evidence that Semitic peoples directly sacrificed children in terms of this cult, there is no such evidence with regards to Nergal and Sumer or Sandon of Cilicia. Indo-European tradition has tended to maintain the tradition in terms of the all conquering hero, after the manner of Herakles, were the underworld is entered into, whether merely in terms of psychological condition or actual, and the means of transformation obtained, the forging of the indestructible weapon also the basis for Odin.



Santas/Odin


Nergal was also a god of the sky, and his alter ego Erra went to the underground palaces of Ereshkigal, the queen of the dead.Also the seven warlike demons of Erra corresponded to the seven Annunanki of Nergal,that is seven great infernal divinities which were thought to be the judges in the afterlife. Probably Erra was cognate with the Hittite plague god Irra, an archer whose features are similar to those of Apollo


Cilician God Santas

Churchill described Hitler as an incarnation of Moloch whereas more properly that could be understood in terms of the cult of Odin, the term would arguably have better described the basis of Churchill's power and the rest of the allies as they had affiliation to the Phoenician tradition that includes a financial component.


He had called from the depths of defeat the dark and savage furies latent in the most numerous, most serviceable, ruthless, contradictory and ill-starred race in Europe. He had conjured up the fearful idol of an all-devouring Moloch of which he was the priest and incarnation






posted on Apr, 2 2018 @ 05:41 AM
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Here's a poem about Moloch, nobody likes him but he wins every election...


Moloch! Solitude! Filth! Ugliness! Ashcans and unobtainable dollars! Children screaming under the stairways! Boys sobbing in armies! Old men weeping in the parks! Moloch! Moloch! Nightmare of Moloch! Moloch the loveless! Mental Moloch! Moloch the heavy judger of men! Moloch the incomprehensible prison! Moloch the crossbone soulless jailhouse and Congress of sorrows! Moloch whose buildings are judgment! Moloch the vast stone of war! Moloch the stunned governments! Moloch whose mind is pure machinery! Moloch whose blood is running money! Moloch whose fingers are ten armies! Moloch whose breast is a cannibal dynamo! Moloch whose ear is a smoking tomb! Moloch whose eyes are a thousand blind windows! Moloch whose skyscrapers stand in the long streets like endless Jehovahs! Moloch whose factories dream and croak in the fog! Moloch whose smoke-stacks and antennae crown the cities! Moloch whose love is endless oil and stone! Moloch whose soul is electricity and banks! Moloch whose poverty is the specter of genius! Moloch whose fate is a cloud of sexless hydrogen! Moloch whose name is the Mind! Moloch who entered my soul early! Moloch in whom I am a consciousness without a body! Moloch who frightened me out of my natural ecstasy! Moloch whom I abandon! Wake up in Moloch! Light streaming out of the sky! Moloch! Moloch! Robot apartments! invisible suburbs! skeleton treasuries! blind capitals! demonic industries! spectral nations! invincible madhouses! They broke their backs lifting Moloch to Heaven! Pavements, trees, radios, tons! lifting the city to Heaven which exists and is everywhere about us!


Howl-Ginsberg



posted on Apr, 2 2018 @ 05:49 AM
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a reply to: Sigrun

Or someone against war was well versed in acient gods and called the military moloch. And someone with no feeling for spoken words took it as if he heard a big secret...
cool story actually...



posted on Apr, 2 2018 @ 06:38 AM
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a reply to: Peeple

The ass was a totemic animal of those merchant clans involved in the ores trade that formed the basis for Moloch, they did not like to see this disrupted, they formed the basis of the desert traversing Sethians and their notorious habits


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posted on Apr, 2 2018 @ 06:50 AM
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a reply to: Sigrun

Sounds to me you are comparing that entity with Trump.. ?
Or do mistranslated you ?

But either way.. I find it funny how we humans always try to blame demons and gods for our wrong doings, perhaps we can sleep better at night then



posted on Apr, 2 2018 @ 07:19 AM
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originally posted by: Spacespider
a reply to: Sigrun

Sounds to me you are comparing that entity with Trump.. ?
Or do mistranslated you ?

But either way.. I find it funny how we humans always try to blame demons and gods for our wrong doings, perhaps we can sleep better at night then

"Sorry i blew up the planet-god said i should"



posted on Apr, 2 2018 @ 07:43 AM
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Well said. And I think that is the meaning to sacrificing your child to moloch - a life's devotion to the standards of said god.

I don't suppose many would perceive the depth to this statement, because I think it could be strongly argued that most today are unknowingly sacrificing their child to moloch. They teach their children the ways of death and normalize it. Send them into a life of indentured financial servitude, only to finally have it all resolved at retirement at the average age of around 65. Those are the costs of living though right? Only if you live according to moloch.
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posted on Apr, 2 2018 @ 08:43 AM
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In ancient times they burned the bodies of children to make sacred fire for the forges of Tubal Cain

The archaeological remains were found in the valley of Gehenna, south of Jerusalem.



posted on Apr, 2 2018 @ 08:44 AM
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a reply to: Spacespider

Trump in Neo-Con mode certainly, there were two Gods quite closely related, Nergal and Ninurta, or Odin and Thor, both were storm Gods, both associated with the military, but the former was associated with transformation through destruction of former states, the forging of weapons, industrialization and resultant toxicity and death, the second a farmer and champion of order that upheld the protection of the land and all who lived within it, people tend to hope they are electing the latter but this invariably seems to manifest as the former.

a reply to: cooperton

It's a lot easier to suggest there is a cranky cult that literally sacrifices children to Moloch, discover and jail them and surely that is the worlds problems solved, meanwhile exploitation of the worlds resources continues at an unprecedented rate as does extinction of species and vast amounts are spent on armament, you don't suppose there's some sort of deflection going on there...?


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posted on Apr, 2 2018 @ 09:01 AM
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I remember growing up everyone called the tv the eye of moloch.

Am i the only one who remembers that.

All the cool kids were doing it.



posted on Apr, 2 2018 @ 09:47 AM
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"They have built the high places of Topheth, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire" (Jeremiah 7:31).




posted on Apr, 2 2018 @ 12:03 PM
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a reply to: Mandy555

The region were they had actual mines and smelting furnaces didn't seem to engage in such practises, only those who imported the ores for trade and manufacturing in workshops, the core region generated the spiritual and metaphorical archetypes in conjunction with their industry but didn't create the symbolic sites and rituals of literally trying to transform people by passing them through fire, a totally different approach were one is operative the other speculative, or maybe even just spectacularly stupid.



posted on Apr, 2 2018 @ 12:18 PM
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Pagan gods only became "evil" when Christians said as much. Until then they were happily celebrated by many, but because Christianity's god is selfish and petty Christians had to label it evil and persecute any believers. And today this god is now known as a demon.

Ah well, it's all a bunch of fairy tales anyways. It's like the ancients' way of debating the Superman versus Goku debate. Except they'll actually torture and kill you in favor of their superhero.
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posted on Apr, 2 2018 @ 01:29 PM
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a reply to: Sigrun

The 1927 movie clip reminds me of the CERN Tunnel opening ceremony.

All over the world, they are bringing back the offerings to Fallen Angles the bringer of really bad teachings "light" that has corrupted mankind and ruined the planet. Burning man type ceremonies and others are growing in number. Those that have not sought will not find. It is pretty clear the prophecies have all been true and the coming ones will be also.
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posted on Apr, 2 2018 @ 02:50 PM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
but because Christianity's god is selfish...


If the King makes himself readily available to everyone, why would you devote your efforts to those lower on the hierarchy?

Do you think your dad would be angry if you were lazy and worthless for him, but then went and did chores and hung out with your step dad all the time? But hey, if your step dad lets you drink underage and buy porno magazines, then screw your real dad who genuinely wants what is best for you.



posted on Apr, 2 2018 @ 03:01 PM
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a reply to: cooperton

Well, my dad doesn't demand I worship him just because he helped my mom create me. He also was present in my life enough to help raise me so he was able to get a say on my behavior growing up. If he were a deadbeat dad (like god is to his creations) and demanding I respect/worship him despite playing no active role in my life or even showing up to prove he exists then he deserves nothing from me.
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posted on Apr, 2 2018 @ 03:18 PM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

Could you imagine a fish that doesn't believe in water? It has never seen water before, so why should it? Unknown to this fish, it has been living in water its entire life. The water gives life to the ungrateful and negligent, but even more so to those that follow it's currents.



posted on Apr, 2 2018 @ 03:22 PM
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originally posted by: cooperton
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Could you imagine a fish that doesn't believe in water? It has never seen water before, so why should it? Unknown to this fish, it has been living in water its entire life. The water gives life to the ungrateful and negligent, but even more so to those that follow it's currents.

This is ridiculous. For one currents are determined by natural forces. For two, neither currents or water has an intelligence. It just exists. For three, this would be like saying humans needed to worship air to survive.

You need to rethink your analogy a bit.
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posted on Apr, 2 2018 @ 03:49 PM
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a reply to: SeaWorthy

There's also the film Moloch by Sokurov in which he contrasts an all too human caricature of Hitler against the Divine archetype he supposedly represented according to Churchill, he overdoes it but the basic comparative is reasonable in terms of Hitler relating to the Indo-European equivalents.




posted on Apr, 2 2018 @ 03:54 PM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t

For one currents are determined by natural forces.


Which would be analogous to God, the life-giving force of all matters. Mammon/Moloch would be to ignore these natural forces inside of us, and to go your own way


neither currents or water has an intelligence


Yet it keeps the living world in order and flourishing with its life-giving sustenance so it seems to be doing a great job.


this would be like saying humans needed to worship air to survive.


Breathe is derived from the word 'spirit' in Latin. This is why the sign of the cross points to the lungs when saying "Holy Spirit". Considering 'worship' can effectively mean acknowledgement of worth, it seems to fit perfect that we should appreciate every breathe we take... rather than spit in the face of That which gave you it. The anxious breath of mammon is easily curable, but the black lung of moloch leaves an enduring stain.




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