originally posted by: ZombieZygote
a reply to: rickymouse
I'll take my chances with nutrient dense, alkaline plant foods over carcinogenic, inflammatory animal protein.
Plant lectins can cause cancer in many people too. Their action on gut permeability can lead to inflammation.
I studied the actual carcinogenic evidence and although it can be a problem, simple cooking practices can neutralize a lot of that effect. The
albumin in meat actually causes the same gut permeability that lectins do which causes almost an identicle cancer risk. Lots of veggies can increase
cancer risk but some of them actually reduce cancer risk. So when you just eat meat and do not eat that companion chemistry that kills cancer when it
is small, yes, you can increase the cancer risk. I know quite a few foods containing these neutralizing chemistries.
I knew a couple of vegetarians that got cancer. I never asked them what type of cancer they had, but they died from it or side effects of the chemo.
If you get along with eating plants, go for it.
I tried going vegetarian a couple of times and got some serious side effects, I also tried going to more of a paleo diet, that didn't work. I got my
genetics done and I need to have both it appears. Your epigenetics controls the enzymes you make and the enzymes control what foods you can eat. The
majority of people need to eat a balance of foods, that balance is effected by the amounts of enzymes you produce, some veggies block the enzymes,
they can cause much worse of a disease than cancer, with cancer you usually die unless you choose to fight it, some of the plant defense system
chemicals tear apart people's bodies and organs if they cannot properly metabolize them. I am not the only one that cannot eat much vegetables, lots
of people cannot become vegans, over half the people in this country cannot tolerate a vegan lifestyle.
Betaine and choline are not the same chemical, an enzyme is needed to convert them. If a person cannot convert betaine to choline or choline to
betaine, then they have to eat both chemistries, one is plant, one is animal based. In the betaines there are dimethylglycine and trimethylglycine,
some people also lack adequate enzymes to switch between those two in the body. It is very complex, I am just giving one example of many. I
personally cannot convert betaine and choline both ways, I need to consume some of each. That showed up in my genetics in the methylation information
and after observing how I feel, I think that is correct in my metabolism. I seem to be able to convert the dimethylglycine to trimethylglycine all
right, that is not an issue. I do not have enough snps to evaluate that from my collected DNA so I had to research the symptoms. Betaines and
cholines are both needed in our body. My biggest problem with some veggies is blood related, I have problems with the third step of making the
hemoglobin, that is what I concluded from what happened to me from the meds, and when I got my DNA done, the first thing I checked for. It is a more
common laplander trait. We do not need to eat as much veggies as some people to have the same good effects, too much veggies can poison us.
Epigenetic changes occur to help to let us live in the environment we are in, Far Northern Europeans did not have a lot of plant foods year round so
they adapted genetically to live on less.