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originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
It's the same with "earth lights". The piezo effect of deep tectonic stress can
generate them.. even in areas with no, or very little earthquake activity.
Burns on the ceilings and walls, and browned wood sound like something ball lightning might do. Lightning is composed of plasma which is very hot and can certainly cause burn marks.
originally posted by: rickymouse
Sounds to me like he ran into a ball of lightning. I know a guy who saw one come into his house through a window opening in the house he was building, moved around the house making burns on the ceiling and walls, went down the basement steps, then singed some of the joists then shot through the hole blowing apart the block where the wire trench went to the garage and singed the wall and damaged the foundation block in the garage six feet from the house and bounced around the garage a bit and left through the open garage door. The insurance claim from that ball lightning was in the thousands of dollars. On a shell of a house.
I saw the damage, it was unbelievable, when it went down the steps to the basement it just browned the wood and steps a bit. He said it traveled around as if it were looking for something.
In 2011, a 10-year-old girl called Erin Moran was struck by lightning while sitting at the window of her bedroom in Merthyr Tydfil. Glass is a good insulator, so it is very unlikely that a window pane would ever be struck directly. But a lightning strike on the roof of a house will travel down through the building through the most conductive route available. The sudden heating of a metal window frame might cause enough expansion to crack the window.
originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
It's the same with "earth lights". The piezo effect of deep tectonic stress can
generate them.. even in areas with no, or very little earthquake activity.
This is an interesting topic. While I wouldn't rule out the possibility, I have to agree that proof so far seems to be lacking. It's more of an idea, than accepted science, unless there are some studies I never found in my last search or some newer research since then.
originally posted by: Blue Shift
I have never seen this imaginative theory proven in any way.
originally posted by: Arbitrageur
However not that long ago I could have said the same thing about ball lightning, which has since been confirmed by scientists, so that goes to show that these transient phenomena can hide from scientific proof for a long time.
This is the only scientific observation I'm aware of. I don't know if their theory of how it originates is correct, but it could be. However there could be more than one type. Maybe there are other types of ball lightning yet to be scientifically observed and documented.
originally posted by: Blue Shift
originally posted by: Arbitrageur
However not that long ago I could have said the same thing about ball lightning, which has since been confirmed by scientists, so that goes to show that these transient phenomena can hide from scientific proof for a long time.
I wonder what holds ball lightning together. Antimatter?
Scientists in the Qinghai region of China were observing a thunderstorm in 2012 using video cameras and a spectrometer, a device that measures light and electromagnetic waves to identify elements. As luck would have it, these instruments recorded a five-meter-wide flash of ball lightning that stayed in the air for about 1.6 seconds.
Back in the lab, the researchers analyzed the spectrometer readings to find large indicators of silicon, iron and calcium, elements present in the soil of the region. The theory is, when lightning strikes the ground, it blasts a cloud of highly-energized soil nanoparticles into the air. As those energized particles calm down, they emit light. Eerie, otherworldly light. Cool!
originally posted by: Arbitrageur
This is the only scientific observation I'm aware of. I don't know if their theory of how it originates is correct, but it could be. However there could be more than one type. Maybe there are other types of ball lightning yet to be scientifically observed and documented.
originally posted by: Blue Shift
originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
It's the same with "earth lights". The piezo effect of deep tectonic stress can
generate them.. even in areas with no, or very little earthquake activity.
I have never seen this imaginative theory proven in any way.
originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
but there's a ton of scientific research on this.. it used to be one of those
fringe topics, but in recent years it has become recognized as legitimate.
but it's mainstream now..
I don't know what you mean by that. There's no good science in your link, quite the opposite, and I still haven't seen any good science. That doesn't mean I doubt the phenomenon may exist, and I'm open-minded to such possibility, but I need to see some better links than that to convince me there's a mainstream foundation for the science.
originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
but it's mainstream now..
Kev
So we are still waiting for some kind of scientific confirmation like we had with ball lightning as far as I know. They found the voltages, but no lights, unless you know of more recent findings.
A staggering volume of literature has been written. Science journals are full of proposed explanations for how such things might be. Legitimate journals, too; with articles co-authored by credentialed, serious academics and their similarly-adorned colleagues. Each is followed with pages of references. But when we look closer, we see that hardly any of these papers agree on anything; and that their proposed mechanisms for the lights are all over the map: bizarre, hypothetical if not fantastical, and not one has ever been conclusively observed. I'm forced to wonder how many of these eager researchers are familiar with Hyman's Categorical Imperative: "Do not try to explain something until you are sure there is something to be explained." ...
But have there actually been any confirmed observations? He provided numerous studies, and there are a lot of cases where measuring equipment has been set up along earthquake-prone fault zones; and, sure enough, voltages have been detected before, during, and after quakes. It's highly inconsistent, but it does happen. Links to a few such papers are in the references below. As far as reliably observed lights, though? Still zilch.
originally posted by: 808Funk
a reply to: rickymouse
The actor Phil Daniels from the 1979 film Quadrophenia once said in the interview that he was followed by ball lighting while on his bike and always wondered if ball lighting is some sort of entity ?