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TEPCO As Transparent As Mud

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posted on Feb, 18 2018 @ 05:29 AM
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. . . they don't know why radiation levels were lower near the suspected fuel debris than around the foundations. They gave a number of possible reasons, such as that cooling water may have washed radioactive materials off the debris.

www3.nhk.or.jp...

The problem isn't why levels are lower inside. The problem is why levels are higher outside.

Suspected fuel debris? When they found the corium it might not have been the corium? Are we still playing hunt the corium?

Maybe it's the drains blocked up with radioactive sludge.

Or it might just be they don't know how to measure radiation. How reassuring is that.


“The high readings from fuel debris would be expected – the higher reading from the foundations, if confirmed, would be more of a concern as the cause is at present unclear. But as officials indicate, it might not be a genuine reading anyway.

www.independent.co.uk... 81.html


Does anyone know why they're getting higher readings outside the building?




posted on Feb, 18 2018 @ 05:55 AM
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a reply to: Kester

Good point, but it says foundations which would be below the building and not necessarily outside. Could it be the fuel has washed its way below ground somehow? I’m fairly certain it doesn’t work like that though. It’s in rods isn’t it?



posted on Feb, 18 2018 @ 06:41 AM
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. . . 42 sieverts per hour of radiation was also detected outside the foundations of the reactor.

www3.nhk.or.jp...

They also say 'around' the foundations. They're being vague. A simple diagram would help us. I want to know if the readings were centralised or spread over an area.
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posted on Feb, 18 2018 @ 06:45 AM
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. . . they don't know why radiation levels were lower near the suspected fuel debris than around the foundations. They gave a number of possible reasons, such as that cooling water may have washed radioactive materials off the debris.

Sooo... as I understand it, the melted cores below the containment in the buildings are hot as hell, impossible to approach, still emitting radiation, need to be kept cooled. The only way they can do that is pour water into the basement(s) and run the overflow out to storage tanks. Since all the available space for storage tanks of this contaminated water is used up, the water is flowing to the sea, thru underground cracks and fissures, produced during the quake and the meltdowns. The water table is at sea level there, it doesn't have far to 'leak'.

Every time there is a rain storm runoff flows down hill towards the sea , onto the site, down into the basement(s) overflowing the water levels in the basements and running off to the sea. This contaminates the ground around the plants with water that has been in direct contact with the cores.

That is probably what is causing radiation measurements around the foundations of the affected plant buildings to be higher than near the core(s).

This also presents problems to clean up crews. They can't work the area after a storm until the ground is scraped up, bagged and transported off site to one of many 'bag dumps' in the area.

Ever time it rains work stops, they evacuate, then cleanup afterwards, transporting 'waste' to off site, effectively spreading the radioactivity around the countryside.

The wonders of nuclear power, the dangers of failed containment, the cost of cleanup.

on site storage tank farm

off site bag dumps




edit on 18-2-2018 by intrptr because: spelling



posted on Feb, 18 2018 @ 08:25 AM
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a reply to: Kester

Crikey 42 Sv/hr - lethal dose in around 10 mins. Don’t have any clue how they’ll clean that up.



posted on Feb, 18 2018 @ 09:15 AM
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Does anyone know why they're getting higher readings outside the building?

Just an idea. Maybe someone more into the physics of particles and lead can check this.

As the nuclear material melts its way through everything underneath it and naturally the radiation decreases as you move away from the core, what if the core is now right on top of high levels of the ore Galena ?

Galena is lead sulphide (PbS) and lead absorbs nuclear particles. So as the core goes deeper into the galena, the core decreases in radiation.
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posted on Feb, 19 2018 @ 07:19 PM
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originally posted by: DrBobH
a reply to: Kester

Crikey 42 Sv/hr - lethal dose in around 10 mins. Don’t have any clue how they’ll clean that up.


Robots - there's lot of research going on into trying to get robots working in these areas. But the radiation is the main obstacle. It fries CCD sensors and CPU logic, even with radiation shielding. Some ideas are to get one robot to laser scan the area, then build up a 3D model of the area, then get "blind" robots to do the cleanup work.

I have the idea if they could find a way of converting all that radiation into energy, they could power their own magnetic field around vital components.


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posted on May, 11 2018 @ 02:24 PM
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a reply to: Kester
Not educated in this field, but higher readings around the foundations would make me suspect things have melted down beyond the foundations.

edit on 2018-5-11 by EnhancedInterrogator because: (no reason given)







 
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