Watch An F-22 Spot And Engage An A-4 Skyhawk In A Low Dogfight In A Valley

For anyone that wants a chuckle give this article a read. link

a reply to: C0bzz

Not exactly, Simple, open radio comms are far easier than the encrypted comm's. In most cases, you aren't saying anything of Secret on the radio anyway, so anyone with a scanner can listen in.

As far as locations, MOAs are drawn up on Sectional charts and can be purchased by anyone, so they're also not hiding where stuff takes place.

The odd factor out is time.

originally posted by: BASSPLYR
Poor little sky hawk. Wonder if the f22 pilot clubs baby seals too. Or steals candy from babies.

A f22 hunting a A4 is like stephen hawkings trying to escape a hungry tiger on a muddy rutted dirt path in the middle of the cambodian jungle. [/q


Hehehehe

a reply to: C0bzz
We may head to RF 19-1 to catch the foreign players and head up to the canyon. We've already got our trip for next year planned or we'd try then.

If it's actual ACM the maneuvers arnt really dog fight like. They should have started head on and engage immediately after passing each other then game on on who can out turn the other. The Hollywood yanking and banking and turning different directions will get you killed fast. That's why they call it dogfight, going around in a circle. If it's ACM 25 miles out with missle lock then you won't see the enemy nor will he see you visually.

This looks like they are just horsing around for the cameras.

a reply to: 38181

They run different scenarios that don't include either WVR or true BVR. They need to learn how to pick out small targets down in the weeds, run protection on large transports, etc.

Head to Head is pretty dangerous as its giving your opponent a target early..Club him from behind while hes not looking is best..Dogfighting is a science...

a reply to: Blackfinger

I would argue that it's an art with a background in science. The stern conversion that we see here is the way to go. Although, at low altitude the A-4 has less clutter to search through than the Raptor. The Raptor has the energy advantage.

Still relevant today..

1. Use surprise to get the upper hand. Strike from above while keeping the sun at your back, Boelcke said.
2. Once engaged, remain committed to the battle. Never flee, he maintained. Always, hang in there and let the other guy retreat. Running from a fight only leaves a pilot at the mercy of pursuers.
3. Get close to the enemy before pulling the trigger. Blazing away at a distant target is just a waste of ammo. Boelcke recommended his pilots to close to within at least 100 m or closer before opening fire.
4. Keep your eye on the enemy at all times, even if you think he’s going down. Too often, outmatched pilots looking to escape from a losing fight would feign a fatal hit and nose their machines over into bogus death spirals. Don’t be fooled, the German squadron leader advised. Follow a defeated opponent’s kite down to the ground to make sure he’s finished.
5. Always get in behind your enemy. Head on passes are risky and trying to hit a plane that’s travelling across your flight path is near impossible, Boelcke warned. Stay on the enemy’s tail and you’ll eventually prevail, he said.
6. Point your plane at danger. When surprised by an enemy, don’t run, Boelcke said. Always attack! Turn your guns onto the threat, even if the enemy is diving on you. Steal the initiative, put him on the defensive and then look for the chance to get on his tail.
7. Use caution, especially when over enemy lines. While retreat is rarely a safe option in any dogfight, Boelcke maintained, when mixing it up over hostile territory, keep an eye on the compass and always have an escape route back to friendly lines open just in case.

originally posted by: Blackfinger
Head to Head is pretty dangerous as its giving your opponent a target early..Club him from behind while hes not looking is best..Dogfighting is a science...

"Cougar I'm gonna go head to head with him..."