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Breaking: First Charges Filed in Mueller Investigation

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posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 07:24 PM
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Senators have introduced bipartisan bills intended to keep Trump from firing Mueller, hardly the act of a Congress that wants to remove Mueller

Chicago Tribune

There is zero evidence that CFIUS knew anything about any investigation into individuals loosely associated with Rosatom. ZERO. The investigation started in 2009, the Uranium One merger was approved in 2010, and the investigation into bribery CONCLUDED IN 2014 with convictions in 2015.

The investigation went on for FOUR YEARS after the Uranium One merger was done.

This is a non-story.



posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 07:27 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
Senators have introduced bipartisan bills intended to keep Trump from firing Mueller, hardly the act of a Congress that wants to remove Mueller

Chicago Tribune

There is zero evidence that CFIUS knew anything about any investigation into individuals loosely associated with Rosatom. ZERO. The investigation started in 2009, the Uranium One merger was approved in 2010, and the investigation into bribery CONCLUDED IN 2014 with convictions in 2015.

The investigation went on for FOUR YEARS after the Uranium One merger was done.

This is a non-story.




I fond it hard to believe that Hillary didnt know.

But ok lets say no CFIUS member knew.

Well then Obama has a lot of explaining to do, purposefully hiding from this board voting on Uranium One that some of the players involved were under an FBI criminal investigation.



posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 07:28 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

Facts say otherwise -

A Russian nuclear firm under FBI investigation was allowed to purchase US uranium supply


Fifteen months before the 13 members of the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States, known as CFIUS, approved the sale of the Canadian company Uranium One to Russia’s nuclear arm giant Rosatom, the FBI began investigating persons who were connected to the Russian state corporation. The FBI said in court documents and in interviews conducted by Circa that by 2010 they had gathered enough evidence to prove that Rosatom-connected officials were engaged in a global bribery scheme that included kickbacks and money laundering. FBI officials said the investigation could have prevented the sale of Uranium One, which controlled 20 percent of U.S. uranium supply under U.S. law.

The deal which required approval by CFIUS, an inter-agency committee who reviews transactions that leads to a change of control of a U.S. business to a foreign person or entity that may have an impact on the national security of the United States. At the time of the Uranium One deal the panel was chaired by then-Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner and included then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and then-Attorney General Eric Holder.

By the time CFIUS approved the sale of Uranium One to Rosatom the FBI’s investigation had already gathered substantial evidence of bribery and kickbacks against a Russian national, Vadim Mikerin, who was then a top official with Rosatom’s Tenex subsidiary, according to court documents. The FBI said while at Tenex, which was located in Maryland, Mikerin was involved in multiple bribery and kickback schemes.


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posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 07:37 PM
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There is zero evidence that the members of CFIUS were aware in 2010 of the FBI investigation into bribery etc. that did not conclude until 2014.

The fact that there was an investigation in 2009 involving an UNDERCOVER operative that continued until 2014 does not prove that the Committee members voting on the merger had any knowledge of a COVERT operation being conducted.
edit on 28-10-2017 by Gryphon66 because: Noted



posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 07:42 PM
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There is zero evidence that President Obama would have been made privy to an undercover investigation began in 2009 concluding in 2014 that did not involve Rosatom but Tenex, a subsidiary company based in New Jersey..



posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 07:47 PM
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Fake News



Circa News, also known as Circa, is an American online news and entertainment service founded in 2012, by Matt Galligan, Ben Huh, and Arsenio Santos. The service features news stories and features consisting of individual bits of information.

The service went offline for financial reasons on June 24, 2015, and then relaunched in Spring 2016 under the ownership of media company Sinclair Broadcast Group. Under Sinclair, the website's coverage has been described by some media outlets as conservative although the site claims to report from a neutral point of view.


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edit on 28-10-2017 by Gryphon66 because: noted



posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 07:48 PM
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First why is it that everytime something comes up Obama was unaware of it until he saw it on the news. So now his FBI didnt tell him that they were investigating the people involved in a deal to get uranium rights for criminal activity?

Sure.

But ok, again lets assume that is true.

Then this proves insane incompetence and possibly corruption by the head of the FBI at that time, Mueller.

Apparently you believe that Mueller leading an investigation into the players in this uranium one deal, and had proof of criminality before the uranium one deal.

Clearly this sell of uranium was deemed a very serious gthings, seeing as how so many groups had to sign off on it.

Despite knowing this, Mueller says absolutely nothing to anyone, thus depriving all those who would vote of a huge piece iof evidence that would possibly affect how they would vote.

This proves incompetance or corruption of the highest level.

Now you are cheering that man on to lead an investigation involving..... Russia!

So if it is your argument that Obama didnt know, then surely you call for a full investigation into Mueller and the FBI and an immediate recusal.



posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 07:52 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
Senators have introduced bipartisan bills intended to keep Trump from firing Mueller, hardly the act of a Congress that wants to remove Mueller

This is a non-story.





Trump or Congress or the Justice Department could dismiss Mueller at any time.

If the Congress finds that Mueller's tenure as head of the FBI during Uranium One is a conflict of interest because Russian collusion happened under his watch, he gets sent home unceremoniously. The Fake News will raise a stink but that is the framework. So you see Trump doesn't have to do anything but sit back and let the real Russian collusion come to light, then Congress steps in and sends Mueller packing.

Here's the story on Mueller's subordinate position as Special Investigator, by the guy who wrote the law.


Source



posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 07:57 PM
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originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: Gryphon66
Senators have introduced bipartisan bills intended to keep Trump from firing Mueller, hardly the act of a Congress that wants to remove Mueller

This is a non-story.





Trump or Congress or the Justice Department could dismiss Mueller at any time.

If the Congress finds that Mueller's tenure as head of the FBI during Uranium One is a conflict of interest because Russian collusion happened under his watch, he gets sent home unceremoniously. The Fake News will raise a stink but that is the framework. So you see Trump doesn't have to do anything but sit back and let the real Russian collusion come to light, then Congress steps in and sends Mueller packing.

Here's the story on Mueller's subordinate position as Special Investigator, by the guy who wrote the law.


Source


Here's some color on what happened under Mueller's watch:

www.newsweek.com...



posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 07:59 PM
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The Canadian company Uranium One ALREADY OWNED the mines in question.

The FBI was not investigating Rosatom the company merging with Unanium One but a New Jersey-based subsidiary ... Tenex.

Everything else being said, supposed, inferred, implied, and downright LIED ABOUT in this regard is false.



posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 08:03 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
The Canadian company Uranium One ALREADY OWNED the mines in question.

The FBI was not investigating Rosatom the company merging with Unanium One but a New Jersey-based subsidiary ... Tenex.

Everything else being said, supposed, inferred, implied, and downright LIED ABOUT in this regard is false.



Again this is unrepsonsive to any of the arguments.

It is clear Putin and Russia wanted this deal, they lobbied for it.

It is clear that there was criminality going on with the players involved.

It is clear that the US government took it serious based on the process needed to allow the deal.

So saying its no big deal canada owned it already does absolutely nothing to dispute these facts.



posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 08:04 PM
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It becomes more evident with each desperate post made by those lying in order to discredit the investigation and Special Counsel Mueller that anything will be said ANY argument made no matter how irrelevant and meaningless.

Every effort is being made ... most curious isn’t it?
edit on 28-10-2017 by Gryphon66 because: Noted



posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 08:05 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
It becomes more evident with each desperate post made by those lying in order to discredit the investigation and Special Counsel Mueller that anything will be said ANY argument no matter how irrelevant and meaningless.

Every effort is being made ... most curious isn’t it?


They're throwing anything and everything, constantly, in an effort to distract from this real big whole lotta # burger.



posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 08:07 PM
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originally posted by: Throes

originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: Gryphon66
Senators have introduced bipartisan bills intended to keep Trump from firing Mueller, hardly the act of a Congress that wants to remove Mueller

This is a non-story.





Trump or Congress or the Justice Department could dismiss Mueller at any time.

If the Congress finds that Mueller's tenure as head of the FBI during Uranium One is a conflict of interest because Russian collusion happened under his watch, he gets sent home unceremoniously. The Fake News will raise a stink but that is the framework. So you see Trump doesn't have to do anything but sit back and let the real Russian collusion come to light, then Congress steps in and sends Mueller packing.

Here's the story on Mueller's subordinate position as Special Investigator, by the guy who wrote the law.


Source


Here's some color on what happened under Mueller's watch:

www.newsweek.com...


Exactly.

Congress is now holding hearings to make all of what happened public record.

Then once it is public record they can dismiss Mueller based on the findings.

What is likely to happen is that once the public record is filled in with what happened, which could drag out into midterms which is what this is all about....the politics, Mueller will step aside and end his investigation after picking on a few peons like Manafort or Flynn.

The optics and messaging to use this all for the midterms elections is what the Dems really care about. They know from experience that wasting taxpayer money for talking points is a shrewd political move when they have nothing else going for them.



posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 08:07 PM
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It is becoming quite obvious with every post made by people claiming they wont discuss anything with anyone who wants to weed out corruption on both sides and accusing people of lying with no proof of that they are becoming unhinged and desperate.

I hope that those posters seek help.
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posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 08:33 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

All the desperate scrambling of the disinformation agents with their fantasy narratives gives me hope for Monday.

The more unhinged Trump becomes the more blood we smell in the water.

Following news of Mueller charges, White House desperately tries to shift focus to Clinton
thinkprogress.org...
edit on 28-10-2017 by spiritualzombie because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 08:37 PM
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originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: Grambler

All the desperate scrambling of the disinformation agents with their fantasy narratives gives me hope for Monday.

The more unhinged Trump becomes the more blood we smell in the water.

Following news of Mueller charges, White House desperately tries to shift focus to Clinton
thinkprogress.org...


We? Who is we?



posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 08:42 PM
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originally posted by: Throes

originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: Grambler

All the desperate scrambling of the disinformation agents with their fantasy narratives gives me hope for Monday.

The more unhinged Trump becomes the more blood we smell in the water.

Following news of Mueller charges, White House desperately tries to shift focus to Clinton
thinkprogress.org...


We? Who is we?


The good guys.




posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 08:55 PM
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I'm independent, I think I'm part of the good guys.



posted on Oct, 28 2017 @ 08:59 PM
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originally posted by: Throes
I'm independent, I think I'm part of the good guys.



In politics there are no "good guys"
edit on 28-10-2017 by ausername because: (no reason given)



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