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originally posted by: Gryphon66
If the existence of Congressional investigations are to be the hallmark of truth, there have been four ongoing Congressional investigations into Russian meddling with our election processes in 2016 for months, yet, these have been dismissed routinely by the Trump faithful. There is either a basic dishonesty or ignorance going on in this regard.
There is zero evidence that anyone in the Obama Administration illegally "colluded with Russia" regarding uranium. The uranium in question was already owned by a Canadian company. The US IMPORTS 83% of used uranium from other countries with 25% already coming from Russian and Kazakstan. The alleged "Uranium 1 scandal" is political theatre or "fake news" as Trump cultists like to call it.
originally posted by: Xcathdra
Since none of what is in the dossier has ever been verified I look forward to your response that it has.
originally posted by: spiritualzombie
The woman who won the popular vote for President of the United States tried to warn us about this fake president / russian puppet. The people heard her and they voted for Hillary. The uneducated misogynists voted for the puppet.
The Orbis report claims, that as the election neared (July 2016), Igor Sechin, Putin’s right-hand man and CEO of Rosneft (Russia’s national oil company) offered Trump a deal that defies belief. I quote:
“Speaking to a trusted compatriot in mid-October 2015, a close associate of Rosneft President and PUTIN ally Igor SECHIN elaborated on the reported secret meeting between the latter and Carter PAGE, of US Republican presidential candidate's foreign policy team, in Moscow in July 2016. The secret had been confirmed to him/her by a senior member of staff, in addition to the Rosneft President himself…Sechin’s associate said that the Rosneft President was so keen to lift personal and corporate Western sanctions imposed on the company, that he offered PAGE associates the brokerage of up to a 19 per cent (privatized) stake in Rosneft in return PAGE had expressed interest and confirmed that were TRUMP elected US president, then sanctions on Russia would be lifted.”
This story is utter nonsense, not worthy of a wacky conspiracy theory of an alien invasion.
To offer Trump either the entirety of, or a brokerage commission on, the market value of 19.5% of Rosneft shares—even a 6 percent commission on $12 billion worth of Rosneft shares would amount to an astonishing $720 million—would deplete the cash that Putin desperately needed for military spending and budget deficits, all in return for a promise to lift sanctions if—and what a big “if”—Trump were elected. Rosneft, as a public company, would have to conceal that the U.S. president was a party to this major transaction. This remarkable secret-of-secrets seems to be bandied about to an Orbis “trusted compatriot," a senior member of Sechin’s staff, and disclosed by Sechin himself. I guess there are a lot of loose lips in Rosneft offices.
#2. Even a quick look at the dossier raises a lot of suspicions. One, there is no real letterhead with a name of any specific corporation/group. Instead, it has a generic title of “Company Intelligence Report.
#3. There is clear evidence that the dossier was written as a prank. For example, one paragraph asserts something so preposterous, I will translate that into a mini narrative.
(yeah, he has two versions of #3 because he's... thorough. Awesome source btw)
#3. There is some evidence that the origin of this dossier was a prank. People on 4Chan – a wild west of social media – were talking about fooling the media with a crazy report on Trump and sex orgy even before the election.
10. The existence of a “Russian dossier or ‘kompromat’ on Hillary Clinton” is confirmed by “Source B…S/he confided in a trusted compatriot that it had been collated by Department K of the FSB for many years.”
This makes no sense. The FSB’s Directorate K is one of the most controversial departments of Russia’s security elite, and its remit translates as “counter intelligence in financial services.” Directorate K has been involved directly and indirectly in some of the dirtiest scandals of recent times—including the plundering of Hermitage Capital and the murder of their lawyer Sergei Magnitsky in 2009. But it has nothing to do with gathering intelligence on foreign leaders—that’s the SVR, the Foreign Intelligence Service, and FAPSI, the electronic eavesdropping department.
But interviews and records show that in the months before the meeting, Ms. Veselnitskaya had discussed the allegations with one of Russia’s most powerful officials, the prosecutor general, Yuri Y. Chaika. And the memo she brought with her closely followed a document that Mr. Chaika’s office had given to an American congressman two months earlier, incorporating some paragraphs verbatim.
The memo that Ms. Veselnitskaya brought to the Trump Tower meeting alleged that Ziff Brothers Investments, an American firm, had illegally purchased shares in a Russian company and evaded tens of millions of dollars of Russian taxes. The company was the financial vehicle of three billionaire brothers, two of them major donors to Democratic candidates including Mrs. Clinton. By implication, Ms. Veselnitskaya, said, those political contributions were tainted by “stolen” money. Kremlin officials viewed the charges as extremely significant. The Ziff brothers had invested in funds managed by William F. Browder, an American-born financier and fierce Kremlin foe. Mr. Browder was the driving force behind a 2012 law passed by Congress imposing sanctions on Russian officials for human rights abuses.
In the past week, Ms. Veselnitskaya’s allegations — that major Democratic donors were guilty of financial fraud and tax evasion — have been embraced at the highest levels of the Russian government. President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia repeated her charges at length last week at an annual conference of Western academics. A state-run television network recently made them the subject of two special reports, featuring interviews with Ms. Veselnitskaya and Mr. Chaika.
The partisan breakdown has rocked all but one committee investigating allegations of Russian meddling in the 2016 elections, including the House and Senate Judiciary Committees, the House Intelligence Committee and the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform. The exception is the Senate Intelligence Committee.
The breakdown also threatens to push the majority of congressional probes into Russia meddling into a political sideshow. It comes just days before Silicon Valley tech giants are scheduled to publicly testify on Capitol Hill about the details of Russia’s disinformation campaign — and just months before lawmakers want to deliver their findings, in part to help the public avoid a similar crisis during the 2018 election
originally posted by: Kettu
Pretzels and Kool Aid, the official food and beverage of ATS this weekend.
And this isn't just confined to ATS either. Across the internet I'm seeing conservatives and alt-right types declaring that Muller's chargers are actually going after Clinton & associates...
...because someone on 4Chan said so...
...the same 4Chan that claimed to be the author of the famous dossier....
Yep, that totally checks out. /s
originally posted by: spiritualzombie
The woman who won the popular vote for President of the United States tried to warn us about this fake president / russian puppet.
What happened less than two months after the dossier starts making the rounds in October?
Rosneft sold 19.5% of its shares on December 7th, 2016 in a deal announced by Putin and Sechin. So in fact, a month after the election, a tad over 19% of Rosneft was privatized.
Reuters - How Russia sold its oil jewel: without saying who bought it
Startling coincidence? Super expensive ploy by Russia to make the dossier seem credible to foment turmoil?
originally posted by: Gryphon66
There is zero doubt that the awareness of the coming indictments would have been shared with Mueller's chain-of-command in the DOJ some time ago (likely just before October 17.)
These lying efforts are not directed at Clinton, Obama and the rest primarily, as that is ludicrous.
The efforts are intended for one purpose only: to discredit the FBI and Special Counsel Mueller.
This is a time when all Americans should stand up for our justice system and stop letting the lying being promoted here go unchallenged by quoting facts and pointing out dishonesty whenever possible.