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The Devil's promise is a conspiracy.

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posted on Feb, 17 2005 @ 04:41 PM
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I was waiting for the big Barbeque and it never happened and for that I thank you.

My effort it is simple: To get people in search to understand that we should not worry about the exact writings and translations of the Bible.

That aspirations for the good of all is not an exacting discipline, and not to get to caught up in " the Bible says" arguement. Quoting is great. There is truth and mistruth in the Bible for it is a not a perfect document.
It is the passing of womans, " and mans " experience with the Lord in their words on to the next generation. The factors that influenced the Bible are many. Natural Disasters, Hunger. Poverty. Greed. Not to mention the physical side effects of these conditions like low blood sugar and depression. It is difficult to be accurate if your temple is in disorder, and Im not talking about being organized, so much as I am speaking about being clear of thought and with good intent. Your mind and body has to be sharp.
This was told to me...." Take care of yourself "

Funny you should bring up the Lord is my shepard.

" The Lord is my Shepard, and through him I shall not want ".

Means that if you do the way of the Lord, you will be taken care of. Even if it doesnt seem apparent to you that you are. Im poor as a popper right now going through my divorce, but honestly, Ive never been happier in my life. Depends on what your want is....

To give you an idea about me....and my awakening.. if you care....

Im going through a divorce. My wife filed a protection order against me.
I cant see my daughter for a year. I cant go to my home. I am living with a friend. Their house is in diorder becasue of me being there.
My spouse is selling all my property and its all held up in bankrutcy court.
Almost $700K in property and assests. Gone. I have no car, it was repossesed. Personally, many would say loser. My life collapsed.

And as I told my wife, you can take away everything from a person, but you cant take away their dignity....

Im proof positive. And it grinds my wife to no end that I have the disposition that I do.
Walk in my shoes.... See what Ive seen. And know that in my darkest hour as a non religious man who had a mild belief in God, that I asked to be hit with a bolt of lightening. Know that in the ten years of my marriage, my spouse never came to openly hug me. Know that she never told me she loved me, yet for almost 11 years, I stayed in the marriage. It was the right thing to do. But all men break, as did I. The result was an awakening that changed my view of the world.

I was visited by what I believed to be angels....they looked like real people.
In the process, without money, I was fed, and provided for when it appeared that I had no place for revenue generation. I also developed a skill. Some kind of telepathy. An alternative form of communication. I can find things without seeing them. I can be directed to things without knowing where they are. All scarey stuff for me to be sure. I couldnt figure out if it was mans intervention in my life or what as I thought I was losing my ever loving mind. But it became apparent to me when I looked in the sky one night something very odd happened...

I was with a friend on a clear night 2 weeks ago. and I told him...Doug, I feel like something is going to happen. Look to the south up high in the sky and see. We waited...and about a minute later, two shooting stars appeared at the same time. One from the east, and one from the west. They met mid sky above us and dissapeared. Doug was amazed and I was scared. I thought I might have been hallucinating. But I wasnt. It was real.

So to those that have read this, know that I am undergoing something which I cannot explain. It took on a religious side, what I thought was something else. God has given me the ability to see truth in things I have never studied.

JFK shooting and who was invlolved.
911 Plot
Apollo Program
Why was JFK shot
Loch Ness
Big Foot
Names of Companys and their motives as corporations
The meaning of Color
The meaning of the Colors in the American Flag
The original alphapbet
Microsoft and why it had to be, and why it will fall
There are some many things.....it scared me. I can assure you I am not crazy...but for a couple months, I thought I might have been for sure.
The tower of Babyl
The meaning of the number of the Beast
George Bush...Good guy. His cabinet misled him...and so you know, I was a Kerry supported and at one time hated Bush...god told me he was a good man. Rumsfeld and Cheney, they need to resign.

Clinton...Good man. Somewhere in his book, Clinton knows that when he said he did not have realations with the woman, what he meant was that we shouldnt be puttin this out in the public....If someone knows Bill, I want validity on this..

They come to me as a pieces of truth that the World needs to stop being lied to. I am able to derive names from the Bible I previously did not know.

If anyone read the post about the Gender debate and the bible, that little bit was inspired about Mankind finding peace by learning from the woman.


That mankinds mistrust in one another and the need for personal elevation and gain are destoying the good works of many that are seeking to reverse the inertia of bad will. That we need to turn things around as individuals. That we need to discard our bias and understand that all Gods people have a right to share on all the good technologies and resources on this earth, and that Governemts, in the end, not now, but in the centuries ahead, will not be needed nor will there be need for borders. We will be unified as a race. Slavery needs to end Today. Child slavery. Child persecution and abuse. Child pornography. They are the future. The worlds police are you and me. Not the CIA. Not the FBI. Not Interpol. Look around you. We can do this as unified men. In Israel, In Palestine, In South America. In Africa....We can do it. The message is not Military, it is Love and caring for all.

Way back when our forefathers embarked on writing a more perfect document, they were indeed inspired. Their concepts were not the concepts of normal men of the time and yes, God inpired the constitution. America was to be the torch barer of freedom. If you don think so...go see the statue of Liberty...Thank you mother France.

" We hold these truths to be self evident that all people are created equal "

Muslim, Hindu, Bhudist, Christian, Orthodox, whatever.....God knows no faith. God knows no race

For indeed we were created equal. And all men and all women should share in the things that have been provided. That the people who are hoarding and controlling resources in the name of personal gain are partaking in what was not suppposed to be.

The word conveyed, is that Jews are all looking for the fisrt coming,,,
The Christians for the second coming, and who knows what else.
The man that comes again is not Jesus. Its someone else. It could be anyone.

My Brothers and Sisters...something has already happened. The change is already taking plave whether you can see it or not. God has been summoned from what unbelievably was what I interprested to be abandonment. He only wanted one woman or man to reach a level.
Let us watch, in the months and years to come. Let us not rest on the good deeds we have done, but push for a kinder Gentler nation as GW senior had said, and move towards, in the face of resistence, a greater good.

It is gods will. All faiths of the world need to coexist and stop their fighting and bloodshed. It is for nought. The resistence will subside as the battles will be extinguished before they were ever started.
Diplomats will use it for self gain. It is for mankinds gain.
Mankind through his collective will can do it alone. Without a shot being fired or a bomb or any type.

Israel and Palestine. I applaud thee for you effort in peace. Set a benchmark for the world to see that if you can do it anyone can.

The days of might will end. The days of the quill are beginging. Faith, Trust, hope, Love and goodwill towards men.

Peace.



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[edit on 17-2-2005 by HIFIGUY]




posted on Feb, 18 2005 @ 10:07 AM
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you are probably one of the most intriguing people I've met here. I don't want to barbeque anyone because how is that helping? As you said, we need people taking care of each other, not killing one another.

You're description of angels match mine. They seemed like normal people and gave great advice though only a few sentences. Just enough to give me the bump back onto the right track or understand a concept I was struggling with personally.

I am sorry to hear about the divorce, as a survivor of being on the brink I can at least feel a part of what you must be going though. I wonder if I was led to that because of this day? God knows. It sounds like you've had a tremendous triumph of spirit with God and that it totally commendable!
Please always keep talking to him.

What's hard for me reading your post above is the percentage. I hear a lot of what you say is true and parallels the things said by Jesus and the Bible itself, yet you deny them. Jesus had a very important role, a second and most important part after coming here and saying the words like you do. I understand most of the people I meet who don't care for Jesus and the Bible and why, but candidly you're a mystery to me. You seem to see very clearly the rewards and modern applications, yet this is only a portion of the gifts God wants to give us. I hope there's something I can do to help, but I get led to places then am expected to figure out why after I'm here. Well, I think I'm here to help you have more. You're right that this is just the beginning, I know what I'm supposed to give you, but I don't know how....

I totally appreciate you sharing your experience, and would equally lend mine if you're interested by a 1 to 1 communication (it's hard to talk on a board with all the noise). It sounds to me that you're of open mind enough to believe what I have to say is true. Let's keep in touch and call each other friends, siblings or whatever, and keep talking. I'm sure we have a lot to learn from each other.



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posted on Feb, 18 2005 @ 10:18 AM
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The real issue isn't being addressed.

God created everything. God knows everything as well, past present, future. Well, this is at least what is standard christian doctrine.

So, God knew when he created Lucifer, that he would send lucifer to reign in hell. At that same time, he knew that most of these people he would be creating in the future were going to go there. He would have had to know, considering he knows everything. Yet he created them anyway. Beyond that, he knew all the decisions that they would make in their lives. So, tomorrow when you are trying to decide what to eat for lunch, god already will know. Meaning that when you finally pick, you really didn't make a choice at all, God planned it.

Yet God is supposed to love those he sends to suffer eternally, for decisions they did not make, and more closely he did.

The real conspiracy is the belief pushed on people by christians that a god has physical effect on their lives.



posted on Feb, 18 2005 @ 11:29 AM
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Originally posted by Seapeople
The real issue isn't being addressed.


True, but HIFIGUY and I did have some meaningful dialogue. Uh oh, I forgot to check, is that against site policy?



Originally posted by Seapeople
God created everything. God knows everything as well, past present, future. Well, this is at least what is standard christian doctrine.

So, God knew when he created Lucifer, that he would send lucifer to reign in hell. At that same time, he knew that most of these people he would be creating in the future were going to go there. He would have had to know, considering he knows everything. Yet he created them anyway. Beyond that, he knew all the decisions that they would make in their lives. So, tomorrow when you are trying to decide what to eat for lunch, god already will know. Meaning that when you finally pick, you really didn't make a choice at all, God planned it.

Yet God is supposed to love those he sends to suffer eternally, for decisions they did not make, and more closely he did.


The above not only assumes God to be a micro-manager, but also negates free will. According to the book since day 1 (or rather day 6 according to Genesis), he had given us the ability to make a choice. We made and continue to make the wrong choice without Him.


Originally posted by Seapeople
The real conspiracy is the belief pushed on people by christians that a god has physical effect on their lives.


Well, I guess you'd have to experience these physical effects to believe it. I'll not push it. Besides, physical effects aren't that important compared to the spirit and eternity anyway.

[edit on 18-2-2005 by saint4God]

[edit on 18-2-2005 by saint4God]



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