Comey making up his mind before interviewing Hillary in context of Intent

So, the fix really was already in before the games began?

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: luthier

I'm arguing that they, which includes Comey/Clinton/Obama/Lynch/SlickWilly/Abedin were working an angle to get HRC in office. They had to do something before the election to shift the direction of Trumps campaign. They opted to put her in the light of a victim. It didn't work.

Everything after the election that came out of Comeys mouth was IMO to attempt and secure his spot and/or reputation. Upon figuring out that both were going away, he leaked in hopes to possibly cash in on a new job or...cash.

This is just my opinion based on the facts that I've seen.

Sure and it's possible.

I think it's also just as possible he was bitter about being told what to do starting with Ashcroft and patriot act stuff and wanted to take down people in wahington may be a little like hoover collecting dirt.

There aren't really facts all around, there are hints of facts with a lot of media bias on all sides who war to use the info.

I think a hail Mary is a stretch for sympathy. That seems like a terrible plan and one that would never work with a few days to spare.

I don't think Clinton thought it was close. I don't think she would say plaster my name in a reminder of shadyness a couple days before the vote.

I could be wrong.

I also don't think he would write memos he knew were entered I to the fbi system if he was doing shady stuff unless he was making a dead man switch and letting people know.

I think he was in it for himself and his own ego.

originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: Gothmog

So he came out a few days before the election and said I am reopening the case?

That doesn't seem logical to your conclusion.

He had too. If the FBI had retrieved the laptop first, we would have never known of its existence.

The NYPD went through the laptop looking for evidence on Weiner...They knew what was on that laptop.

So Comey had to reopen the case to save face.... hence while it took them months to go through the other emails, they were able to determine in a couple of days that none of the 650,000 emails were of relevance.

a reply to: RickinVa

Wasn't the Weiner's laptop after the election? I forget now with so much scum clouding everything over.

And I do t think he had to at that time if that was the case. He didn't have to make the statement at all.

a reply to: luthier

I think a hail Mary is a stretch for sympathy. That seems like a terrible plan and one that would never work with a few days to spare.

I disagree. Sympathy generates billions of dollars. If they were going to play upon that narrative, they would need to do it days before the election but not too soon to have it time to process. A knee-jerk if you will.

I think he was in it for himself and his own ego.

As do I, before and after the election. That doesn't mean that he didn't share the same goals as the Obama administration and to this end I also don't believe he was as altruistic as portrayed.

a reply to: JinMI

I am not seeing that, the Clinton campaign went into crisis mode and never played the sympathy card up to its potential if that's the case.

Or I had tuned out and decided I would never vote for either of the candidates by that time.

a reply to: luthier

Crisis Mode = Desperate measures.

IMO the impact only works in the short term, long before the facts are found.

There is the possibility that I am wrong on them doing this, but I've yet to be proven wrong or called out. As I said, this is my opinion.

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: luthier

Crisis Mode = Desperate measures.

IMO the impact only works in the short term, long before the facts are found.

There is the possibility that I am wrong on them doing this, but I've yet to be proven wrong or called out. As I said, this is my opinion.

Provendors wrong? There isn't enough info to prove anything. It's just spit balling.

Do you have any articles showing her a playing the sympathy card right away in an orchestrated way?

originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: RickinVa

Wasn't the Weiner's laptop after the election? I forget now with so much scum clouding everything over.

And I do t think he had to at that time if that was the case. He didn't have to make the statement at all.

Oct 28th.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

a reply to: Grambler

Do you have any evidence of the actual contents of the documents begun in May 2016 in the wrap-up of the Clinton Email investigation or not?

You've already admitted here that you don't have any details about that document, but you start another thread on the matter and pretend you do?

a reply to: RickinVa

Thank you.

But he doesn't need to make a statement. They can open the investigation without saying a word.

But I forgot about that. I was so disgusted by the choices at that time I tuned out. Holding my nose to vote for Johnson.

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: luthier

Crisis Mode = Desperate measures.

Russians, Russia, Russia, hackers, hacking, meddling, influencing, colluding....

When all else fails.

a reply to: luthier

They are official typed memos people saw at the time...

Typed memos of what? And why so early when Hillary had not been questioned yet?

He is literally one of the top US prosecutors over 30 years bitter about the DOJ being political.

That is good, but also beside the point. Just a political move for him to get the job. It doesn't mean he has the skills or abilities to be a good FBI director. He didn't even know if he should open or close the case on Hillary. That gives the impression of buffoonish behavior.

How would he not be very adept if he leaves a trail that brings people down?

Because it also implicates himself. Unless you believe he wants to get himself sent to prison.

Why did he decide to reopen the investigation because he wanted Hilary to win?

Because he thought he was smart enough to go toe to toe with the big dogs, which he obviously wasn't. That also proves his skills and abilities for his job was completely inadequate. Hoover would have been ashamed of him.

a reply to: ausername

You realize the Republicans also say the Russians meddled right?

Now making Hilary lose they did not she did that on her own but let's not pretend Russia doesn't want to divide the US and stop the expansion of nato.

a reply to: luthier

No, it was just the vibe I got and tactics used throughout the campaign .

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Grambler

Do you have any evidence of the actual contents of the documents begun in May 2016 in the wrap-up of the Clinton Email investigation or not?

You've already admitted here that you don't have any details about that document, but you start another thread on the matter and pretend you do?

I only have the redacted evidence that was provided, that has a person saying this is a memo on the direction the investigation is going.

If it turns out that this indeed said they were leaning to not recomending [prosecution because of no intent, then I assume you will be outraged, right?

a reply to: 3daysgone

The memo was entered to the fbi database I thought?

Because lynch said we won't prosecute and he has observed it's not 1950 anymore as far as Intel and subversive means.

Maybe they had a computer set up with child porn ready with his name on.

You are correct he may not be smart enough I guess.

Maybe he actually cared about his country and worried what the info would do to the public if not leaked slowly or done a certain way.

Why hasn't the doj really opened the case 4 months ago?

Why haven't they stopped Mueller?

Do we know the whole story.

I really don't know. Just seems weird.

a reply to: JinMI

Sure. Give me a couple days to chew it over. Maybe your right..maybe it's even weirder. With the msm for your beliefs echo chambers it's very hard to see the truth anymore.

It's like using real data to "prove" a false point

a reply to: luthier

You are correct he may not be smart enough I guess.

That is my opinion. I get it from observations of what little I have seen, and that would only be what every other citizen is obliged to.

Maybe he actually cared about his country and worried what the info would do to the public if not leaked slowly or done a certain way.

That could be true, but that doesn't seem to fit a political attorney's profile.

Why hasn't the doj really opened the case 4 months ago?

That is a good question. I don't know. My initial thought as to why, is because the life long politician that has acquired the head seat at the DOJ knows how to play power games.

Why haven't they stopped Mueller?

Why? Has Mueller found anything?

Do we know the whole story.

Of course not, and we never will.

I really don't know. Just seems weird.

No doubt. It is weird from almost all perspectives.

a reply to: 3daysgone

So what if he was threatened. Like the child porn situation as a metaphor.

What if he had to enter the memo to get lynch off his back?

There are plenty of scenarios that play out in the world of scumbags.

As far as Mueller he wouldn't exactly run to the press with his evidence. Every piece he finds would not be on the Washington post.

People seem to forget prosecutors put together the most rock solid case they can. They don't find a clue and rush to the press.

That's what guys in the political committees do when they panic.