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# Gravitational waves Nobel discovery change tech. constraints for Star trek & UFO understanding

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posted on Oct, 13 2017 @ 09:29 AM
a reply to: Harte

hahahah Ok silver surfer put the bong down!

posted on Oct, 13 2017 @ 11:29 AM

originally posted by: Phage
Surfers don't ride open ocean swells though, they ride breaking waves. Different situation entirely. I've daydreamed about catching a breaking gravity wave. I wonder what sort of reef would be required.

You'd definitely need a log.

posted on Oct, 13 2017 @ 09:04 PM

I think the difficulty here for who don't think gravitational radiation transmits energy is that they ignore that Gravitational waves certainly are able to transfer momentum:

One example is black hole recoil[1]. During the merger of binary black holes, the gravitational waves is emitted. And because of the asymmetry of gravitational radiation, the resultant black hole can gain a recoil velocity up to 4000km/s, which is enough to escape the host galaxy. This phenomenon indicated that gravitational waves can also carry momentum as well as energy.

[1] Maximum gravitational recoil
Manuela Campanelli, Carlos O. Lousto, Yosef Zlochower, David Merritt
(Submitted on 25 Feb 2007 (v1), last revised 27 Feb 2007 (this version, v2))

arxiv.org...

How much energy was released by the massive merger, and what was the frequency and wavelength of the gravitational wave? First, we can estimate the energy released by calculating the energy equivalent of the missing mass after the merger. Before the merger, the total mass of both black holes was 36 + 29 solar masses, or approximately 65 solar masses. After the merger, a single black hole with a solar mass of 62 remained. What happened to the missing three solar masses? It was turned into the energy transported by the subsequent gravitational wave throughout the universe. Using Einstein’s famous equation E = mc2, where E is the energy equivalent of the missing mass and c is the speed of light, we can estimate the energy released as gravitational waves. E = mc2 = 3 × (1.989 × 1030kg)(2.99792 × 108m/sec.)2 ≈ 5.4 × 1047 kg m2/sec2 = 5.4 × 1047 joules

www.icr.org...

That waves can not distantly transfer energy that can be converted again into work elsewhere ?

well it suffices to see the heating power of sun light, an electromagnetic wave, and how can be used to cook, to heat steam, to generate electricity.

We use daily microwaves to heat our meals, so it is pretty straight forward that radiation can be transformed in heat and therefore into work.

Thanks for the attention to the thread,

The Angel of Lightness
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posted on Oct, 13 2017 @ 09:06 PM
a reply to: The angel of light

What is gravitational radiation? Never heard of it.
Never mind. Found it. It's just a term used to describe the propagation of gravitational waves.

Gravitational Radiation is to gravity what light is to electromagnetism. It is produced when massive bodies accelerate. You can accelerate any body so as to produce such radiation, but due to the feeble strength of gravity, it is entirely undetectable except when produced by intense astrophysical sources such as supernovae, collisions of black holes, etc.

math.ucr.edu...

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posted on Oct, 14 2017 @ 10:41 AM
It appears that the angel of light thinks that if it's a wave, you can cook with it.

Electromagnetic waves (and sound waves and water waves) involve the transfer of energy through particles. Particles that can be captured by other things, like a solar sail (or oven,) a microphone, a surfboard.

The particles of gravity waves (gravitons) don't work like that. Gravity waves are a distortion of space time itself. They are not some 3-d wave traveling through space time like light or sound, etc.

That's why I said that to utilize them, you'd have to be in some higher-dimensional existence where gravity waves are palpable - like sound, light and water waves are to us.

Harte

posted on Oct, 15 2017 @ 01:05 PM
a reply to: Harte

All waves exist in unrealized potential before the medium they vibrate even existed. Except Gravity waves.. Gravity waves are a reflection, a reverberation.

The signal of the simulation does not include the signals created by the simulation itself. Therefore Gravity is not a fundamental force.

posted on Oct, 4 2018 @ 09:47 AM
a reply to: BigBangWasAnEcho

Yes, it is a reverberation across the Universe of catastrophic events, and the virtue on it is that their wave length is extraordinary long so they can provide is information of distances that are unreachable using other spectrum.

The wave-lengths of gravitational waves emitted in such merger events are typically of the same order as the dimension of the system that serves as its source.

For instance, in black holes with masses between 10 and 100 times the solar mass, wavelengths are typically a hundred to a thousand km – right in the range that LIGO is most sensitive.

That is why they provide a way to map regions of the universe that are not revealed to our knowledge by light, x rays, infrared or radio waves.

Even if they are useless to navigate through the cosmos as a source of energy, as some futuristic scientists believe, they certainly provide charts of navigation that can Not be made through other means.

Thanks for the attention to the thread by the way.

The Angel of Lightness

posted on Oct, 4 2018 @ 10:21 AM
Saw this video early today about how gravitational waves can allow us to detect the existence of extra dimensions. Turns out gravity waves behave as we'd expect of 3 dimensional space with 1 time dimension, nothing to suggest gravity should be modified over large distances, yet another reason MOND type ideas are a bad approach to dark matter.

posted on Oct, 15 2018 @ 10:47 AM
a reply to: ChaoticOrder

Hi, Thanks to bring this material here, I think it is really interesting, possibly gravitational waves are going to give us the tool to confirm many findings that support the M or string Theory, which precisely has to do with the knowledge of extradimensions you are referring to on your post.

I am going to check this video more in detail in order to go in a more profound discussion with you on it.

Thanks,

The Angel of Lightness

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