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posted on Oct, 2 2017 @ 05:58 AM
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Just listened to some of the video. Some members have stated that it sounded like an M249 SAW . That is exactly the sound this squad assault weapon produces.
Again ,it is hard to say with an apparent echo but the actual sound matches .

M249 SAW

And according to the article the civilian public can purchase one online (semi-automatic of course)
I am a firm believer in the 2nd Amendment and absolutely the right to own firearms . However , this is ridiculous.





posted on Oct, 2 2017 @ 05:58 AM
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originally posted by: ThePeaceMaker
Just wanted to add that some people are saying they are hearing more than one gun going off in some of the videos and making the assumption of more than one shooter. There could be several explanations

The lone shooter may of had a gun in each hand. If he was firing from a balcony, a balcony railing could be a good support to mount a weapon one

Or the sound waves of the gun fire bouncing off other buildings may make the gun fire in the videos sound a little off


the other thing people need to consider is the number of people dead might not all be from being shot. That many people stampeding for safety / exits and you are bound to have casualties from people being trampled over / crushed / medical conditions etc.
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posted on Oct, 2 2017 @ 05:59 AM
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originally posted by: DavidCrane

originally posted by: BlackSkinheadNow to arm the door staff and workers so this doesn't happen again


...Because if the door staff had guns, they'd have been able to accurately determine which room, on which floor, the shooting was coming from, and get to that particular floor and room in time to prevent 90 seconds of gunfire. Yeahhh.



He was obviously being sarcastic



posted on Oct, 2 2017 @ 06:00 AM
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a reply to: Power_Semi

This lunatic seems like he was using an illegal weapon. How would you stop it by making guns illegal. Hell, people can even manufacture their own guns illegally, never mind the availability on the black market if guns were illegal. A war on guns would be about as successful as the war on drugs.



posted on Oct, 2 2017 @ 06:01 AM
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a reply to: Gothmog

That is some heavy f(#@#g hardware!



posted on Oct, 2 2017 @ 06:01 AM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: gps777
Makes me wonder if Maryilou rang the police beforehand? and what response might she have gotten, it would seem that she had prior knowledge and tried to frantically clear the crowd and was escorted out only for the firing to commence a short time later.

This doesn`t look "Islamic terrorist" related to me, a different type of mass murderer of innocent people.


The eyewitness made it sound like the woman saying they were all going to die was not really warning them, rather mocking them. Maybe thats just how it came across?


Agreed - witness stated the woman was playing with people's hair and saying they were all going to die... now that doesn't sounds like a mentally stable person, nor someone actually giving warning, nor reliable testimony.



posted on Oct, 2 2017 @ 06:02 AM
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First picture of gunman Stephen Paddock who killed at least 50 people by opening fire on Las Vegas crowds


This is the first image of the suspected gunman who killed at least 50 people when he opened fire at a music festival in Las Vegas.

MirrorUK


So, this is his recently made-as was mentioned around the net- Instagram(sorry, no account, can't log into it.)
Source

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posted on Oct, 2 2017 @ 06:03 AM
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a reply to: UKTruth

firing from an elevated position with a automatic weapon yeah but i bet this was not a legall owned class 3 weapon



posted on Oct, 2 2017 @ 06:03 AM
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originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: Power_Semi

This lunatic seems like he was using an illegal weapon. How would you stop it by making guns illegal. Hell, people can even manufacture their own guns illegally, never mind the availability on the black market if guns were illegal. A war on guns would be about as successful as the war on drugs.


Yes, this weapon was illegal. But where legally all kinds of weapons are traded access to these kind of machine gun might be a lot of easier than in other countries.

Sorry guys, but my reaction was that I thought I am lucky not to live in the US - where ever idiot can get gun. Ever thought about in how many other countries guns are legal?



posted on Oct, 2 2017 @ 06:03 AM
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a reply to: dreamingawake

He looks like that gun expert on that stupid show Pawn Stars, which i believe may be filmed in Vegas



posted on Oct, 2 2017 @ 06:04 AM
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Address for Stephen "Chee" Paddock was a mobile home on Wepo trail in Flagstaff April 15th 2017.



posted on Oct, 2 2017 @ 06:04 AM
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So here we are so far:

1. A single shooter killing 50+ and injuring 200+.....if you believe that......just wow.....wow.

2. Watch out for the spin on weapons used.
California is pushing their anti-gun agenda eastward, just as much as the marijuana laws.
I remember if you were caught in Nevada with a seed you could get years not so long ago. Just putting it out there.

3. Multiple shots heard at multiple locations just like Dallas, yet there is only ONE suspect so far. Ludicrous.

4. Folks are still spouting nonsense about intent and/or affiliations.

5. As we try to make sense of this, none of this will make sense to those of us that have common sense.

6. Watch for spins on Trump, gun laws, religious and ideological extremism, lone nut theories, and political affiliation.

7. A sh# storm is coming from the media that will pale in comparison to the severe weather we have been experiencing. Weather will be second fiddle to this mess for weeks. PR reports will continue to be horrible to add to the pressure.

8. Something else is brewing..... behind the scenes.
Something super significant and huge IMO.... these "events" are being strung together too tightly to dismiss them as "just one of those things".

9. Remember this is ATS...anything is possible...if not, at the very least, plausible...




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posted on Oct, 2 2017 @ 06:05 AM
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originally posted by: Guyfriday
a reply to: scubagravy

The Philippines are having an issue with ISIS right now. This in mind
doesn't mean anything as this could be a lone wolf, unknown group, a Filipino Liberation group that wants America out of their country, heck it could be one of those anti-constitutionalist groups. Point is we are going to need to wait to find out who is behind the attack, or if it is just a lone wolf situation.


As for the going on about the fully auto weapon, I don't think so. The firing rate is off (many of you might argue about this but I was a Machine Gunner in the Marine Corps and had quite a few hours on different weapon platforms) To me it sounds like a rapid firing device that are popular with certain people. They used to be fairly easy to get a hold of, but a little harder now. The shooter could also be using his hand in an unconventional way to provide the rapid fire as well, but the cycle of shots seems to regulated for that. If we assumed that the individual was using a fully automatic weapon, then why don't we hear full on automatic firing? We only are hearing the cycled firing. Truth be known though, we'll have to wait and see what weapon it is.


Hey Friday Guy....

Please point out where i mentioned any sort of weapon let alone 'going on about' ?



posted on Oct, 2 2017 @ 06:06 AM
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The Mirror is claiming that this is the guy.



posted on Oct, 2 2017 @ 06:08 AM
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originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: burgerbuddy

originally posted by: Konduit
[SNIP]



Looks like a dem progressive to me.




If true then the Fake News has spawned terror, Hillary's resistance with bullets.


A country music concert that makes his target audience to be that faux "white privileged class"?

Haters are getting more bold. God help us all. We may have some more wacko's with all the lies in the news stirring the groups up and dividing the country.


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posted on Oct, 2 2017 @ 06:08 AM
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originally posted by: scubagravy
a reply to: dreamingawake

He looks like that gun expert on that stupid show Pawn Stars, which i believe may be filmed in Vegas


North Las Vegas on the strip to be exact. Place is tiny.



posted on Oct, 2 2017 @ 06:08 AM
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64 year old local guy was the shooter. He's white as far as I know so it isn't Islamic terrorism like everyone assumes. 50 dead 200 injured



posted on Oct, 2 2017 @ 06:09 AM
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a reply to: EternalShadow

We dont know cause of death for those killed. Its possible some fatalities occurred when there was a rush to safety ny being trampled / crushed etc by people fleeing.



posted on Oct, 2 2017 @ 06:11 AM
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a reply to: Gothmog

Over 15 yrs and still active duty military. I thought it sounded like a SAW when I first heard it too.

I'll be interested to find out what it turns out to be.



posted on Oct, 2 2017 @ 06:11 AM
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a reply to: dreamingawake

Okay, just so I am following you - the photo that The Mirror claims IS the Stephen Paddock who has done this - is from his facebook, and is the same dude in the instagram post that was posted 10 - 12 hours prior to the shooting?



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