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Hamas says it's not bound by ceasefire

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posted on Feb, 8 2005 @ 01:39 PM
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Hamas says not bound by Palestinian ceasefire

AFP/Yahoo! News
Feb 08, 2005
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GAZA CITY - Palestinian Islamist militant movement Hamas said that it was not bound by the ceasefire announced by Palestinian leader Mahmud Abbas at a Middle East peace summit in Egypt.

Abbas's declaration "expresses only the position of the Palestinian Authority. It does not express the position of the Palestinian movements," said Hamas spokesman Mushir al-Masri.

In Beirut, Hamas spokesman Osama Hamdaneh said the ceasefire pledge "does not commit the Palestinian resistance."

Hamas, which has been behind many of the deadliest anti-Israeli attacks during the four-year Palestinian uprising, and other armed groups have nevertheless agreed to a temporary "cooling down" period.

Read the resthere.
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So much for Abbas' authority and so much for Hamas really
wanting peace ...
... like anyone really believed that
they did??




posted on Feb, 8 2005 @ 01:47 PM
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any more sources?
or is it just yahoo that is reporting this?



posted on Feb, 8 2005 @ 01:51 PM
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Yahoo doesn't actually report, this is a report from teh Associate Free Press and the like.

Hamas, really, isn't bound by the truce that ends the intafada. The palestinian government issued the intafada, and now they've finally shut it off. Things can go back to normal, where the gov secretly supports the terror groups and they openly kill civilians.



posted on Feb, 8 2005 @ 01:57 PM
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Of course not. However, the peace can still work if the Palestinian Authority goes after Hamas when they perpetrate murder. This whole truce is pretty much on Abbas. Israel, if Abbas does nothing after a suicide bombing, will retaliate. However, if this happens I'm sure the media will twist it to be the fault of the Jew. :shk:

Seriously, though, how rediculous is it that we demand Israel have a cease fire with terrorists?



posted on Feb, 8 2005 @ 02:05 PM
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Alright, looks like I win that 20 bucks.(I bet 20 that hamas or the likes would attack Israel under a month) Ok, they didn't attack, but now you know they are. Well, here's to the new state of Israel formerly known as Syria, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia......



posted on Feb, 8 2005 @ 02:09 PM
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Originally posted by junglejake
if this happens I'm sure the media will twist it to be the fault of the Jew. :shk:



your right you can never blame jews, they dont do anything bad


seriously: i was reading on the news that hamas were taking part in the elections
and have won a large number of votes in some areas


news.bbc.co.uk...



posted on Feb, 8 2005 @ 02:15 PM
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Originally posted by junglejake
However, if this happens I'm sure the media will twist it to be the fault of the Jew. :shk:


of yes, because we all know how biased the media is in favour of the palestinians. Its not as if the zionists have a powerful lobby and the ridiculous slander of anti-semitism to fall back on. Not to mention the friends of Israel that corrupt the US government.


Seriously, though, how rediculous is it that we demand Israel have a cease fire with terrorists?


no more ridiculous than taking their land in the first place.



posted on Feb, 8 2005 @ 02:48 PM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan
Hamas says not bound by Palestinian ceasefire



Yes.


And Hamas is strong within the PA. Hamas had won an overwhelming victory in Gaza Strip local elections, winning 77 out of the 118 seats in 10 districts, end of January.

In the local elections in the West Bank, Hamas made a strong showing and took control of several towns away from Fatah Party of Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas.

The Palestinians need to comply with the first phase of the road map which is about breaking up the terrorist infrastructure and collecting illegal weapons.

Palestinian statehood is still a long way off.

Rebekka



posted on Feb, 9 2005 @ 03:06 AM
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Is Hamas going mainstream?

Despite Israel's efforts to destroy Hamas, including assassination of most of its top leaders, the resistance movement was able to emerge victorious in local elections held in 10 Gaza towns and villages last week.



According to the municipal council of Bait Hanun, about 40% of Bait Hanun farms and citrus groves have been bulldozed by the Israeli army.

Israel repeatedly claimed that the demolition of thousands of Palestinian homes in the Gaza Strip was a retaliation for Palestinian resistance, spearheaded by Hamas.

In short, the Israeli goal was to turn the populace against Hamas, by telling them: "Hamas brought this on you."

"Hamas is not, and will never be, a selfish movement; we are mere servants of the Palestinian people and we will cooperate with all forces to expedite the interests of our people."

"We are a misunderstood movement. We will always choose moderation over extremism, extremism is incompatible with our faith and is counterproductive."

The movement has also indicated that it will accept a political settlement involving a total Israeli withdrawal from the West Bank, Gaza Strip and East Jerusalem as well as the repatriation of Palestinian refugees expelled by Israel in 1948.


source:
english.aljazeera

maybe we could see a historical event!
a peace between the israelis and the palestinians!
at last!

...if the isreal doesnt assassinate the new hamas leader again...



posted on Feb, 9 2005 @ 03:39 AM
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Originally posted by Souljah
...if the isreal doesnt assassinate the new hamas leader again...


Especially if M. Abbas is Nostradamus' Mabus.
Then we're royally screwed



posted on Feb, 9 2005 @ 03:49 AM
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Originally posted by Pisky

Originally posted by Souljah
...if the isreal doesnt assassinate the new hamas leader again...


Especially if M. Abbas is Nostradamus' Mabus.
Then we're royally screwed

oh yeah,
then we are screwed beyond any recognition!



posted on Feb, 9 2005 @ 04:06 AM
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Israel Radio reported this morning that Abbas was slated to meet Hamas, Jihad, Syrian-backed PFLP (Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine) , DFLP (Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine) and the other militant Palestinian factions later in the day to describe the outcome of Tuesday's summit with PM Sharon.

Abbas will likely remain in Gaza for several days and he will attempt to persuade the groups to support the cease-fire.


Rebekka



[edit on 9-2-2005 by Riwka]



posted on Feb, 9 2005 @ 08:12 AM
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Originally posted by junglejake
Of course not. However, the peace can still work if the Palestinian Authority goes after Hamas when they perpetrate murder.

The PA does not consider it murder tho. They consider it legit resistance, they are just sayign that they themselves will not participate in the violence for the moment.


Seriously, though, how rediculous is it that we demand Israel have a cease fire with terrorists?

Its absurd. They're being attacked constantly, and have offered practically everything up to a right of return, and are even expressing openness to talks about that.

However, if hamas attacks, then israel has a right to respond against hamas, not, say, invest abbas in his central compound. The israelis could do that with arafat only because he himself was calling for open rebellion.


james the lesser
Well, here's to the new state of Israel formerly known as Syria, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia......

Its doubtful that the US will allow the israelis to occupy even more arab territory. MAYBE lebanon, in fact an exchange of the west bank for lebanon would be interesting, but certainly not syria or the rest. Its not in the interests of the US, what does the US care if the Israelis have to deal with the palestinians?



posted on Feb, 9 2005 @ 08:20 AM
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Originally posted by junglejake
Seriously, though, how rediculous is it that we
demand Israel have a cease fire with terrorists?

Rediculous? I call it freak'n stupid.
I don't understand how our government
can even try to suggest such a thing.



posted on Feb, 9 2005 @ 08:32 AM
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The israelis could do that with arafat only because he himself was calling for open rebellion.


The Israelis could do it with Arafat because Arafat had control of Hamas, hell, he was one of it's founders... Abbas obviously did not inherit this power along with election...nor was this unexpected. If Hamas tries to screw things up, Abbas will be between a rock and a hard place, and if the cease-fire is to be maintained, and if the Palestinians wish to see any hope of a Palestinian state, Abbas will need to go after Hamas if they commit any acts of terrorism.



posted on Feb, 9 2005 @ 09:11 AM
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Hamas is trouble that cannot be controlled. They must be led. Theres a lot of past bllod on their hands which include the innocent caght in the cross fire on both sides of the fence. Beirut was a lesson for Hamas but with Iran backing them and Iran's popularity with Israel and the US, this whole Peace arrangement could turn into a war between religions.

Saudi Arabia is a place in mid east where I think eyes should be focused. The US is moving its Air base operations to Quator and news reports show some SA people clapping every time something terrible happens to US People. Again maybe its an evolutionary thing they must go through?
Dallas



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