Female soldiers mud-wrestling in Iraq

During the first gulf war it was allegations of females military personal doing prostitution.

So if the mud wrestling is for money then it will be some legal issues involved. Now one of the girl was showing her breast and got her rank reduced for it.

Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
Dr Love, a few things you should know. While samoking weed, drinking, and looking at porn might be fun for you, these are activities these soldiers cannot partake. Marijuana is illegal for soldiers, and we get random drug tests monthly, so most smart people avoid it while in the military. And since they are in a hostile area, and probably dont get much time off, drinking is unlikely. They dont have cable TV on demand there, if they even have TVs. No video games. Probably no porn.

OK Skadi, let me pose this question to you. If a soldier was to fail a drug test, in the war footing that we're in right now, what would happen to that soldier? I bet some some of these guys are hittin' the bong quite frequently during their down time. And I have an even harder time believing that they're not drinking. How do they calm their nerves other than with cigarettes? And I have an even harder time believing that there isn't more centerfolds hung up on the tent walls than American flags.

Peace

Originally posted by Dr Love

OK Skadi, let me pose this question to you. If a soldier was to fail a drug test, in the war footing that we're in right now, what would happen to that soldier? I bet some some of these guys are hittin' the bong quite frequently during their down time. And I have an even harder time believing that they're not drinking. How do they calm their nerves other than with cigarettes? And I have an even harder time believing that there isn't more centerfolds hung up on the tent walls than American flags.

Peace

Then you obviously have never been in the military, have you?

We were stationed 6 months in saudi, where alcohol was forbidden. So we found other ways to amuse ourselves. And yeah, even in the current situation, they would indeed kick a doper out of the army.


Again, in such circumstances, there is little to do for fun. So people make their own fun. I know it may be hard for you to understand how people survive such miserbale conditions, but we do, and do it strangely.

They don't drug test soldiers in war, do they? That preposterous! And they're not allowed to drink? I find that hard to believe. Even in wartime, they get some off time, right? No one can be on alert indefinitely. Don't they have shifts, and stuff?

During Desert storm and after, a hideous concoction known as Saudi Moonshine (antifreeze distilled through white bread) was drank sometimes by a few hard core alcoholics. Grape koolaid and yeast created something that resembled mad dog 20/20. Alcohol can be smuggled in if you are creative. But depending on your station and situation, chances to use it are pretty difficult.

And yeah, they do drug test soldiers during war, though not as frequently as they do when in garrison. But its still done.

And more than likely, sicne they are in a Muslim country that probably has rstrictions on alcohol, drinking is probably prohibited there, and thus, opportunities to drink and not get caught are probably limited.

This aint the Vietnam army, folks.

Lt. Col. Barry Johnson, spokesman for detainee operations at Camp Bucca"Following an inquiry, that soldier was demoted and placed on restriction for participating in the event, specifically for indecent exposure, he said.

Four or five other members of the 105th who were spectators received counseling".
Oh aye a bet they really needed it.

Originally posted by marg6043
During the first gulf war it was allegations of females military personal doing prostitution.

So if the mud wrestling is for money then it will be some legal issues involved. Now one of the girl was showing her breast and got her rank reduced for it.

Oh, those werent rumors. Ask any guy who was in during desert storm. It happened, there were a number of females who were pimpin themselves out.

So far the claim that mud wrestl;ing is for money.....its still not confirmed, as a few allegations here dont seem to be. Showing a tit? God, we saw ALOT worse when i was in and no one made any big deal of it, no one cared, its not like most of the guys hadnt seen said tit before.

I still dont see what the big deal is.

So that's the real reason behind trench digging, sneaky!
Well all i got to say is, if it boosts morale and doesnt really effect thier job then go right ahead!
I mean we are paying these people to fight for our freedoms....right?

Scantily clad females mud wrestling in the desert? Outrageous! I demand my own personal copy of the videotape in order to examine it for all violations of military conduct!

Please send it to me in a plain brown wrapper...

Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf

Oh, those werent rumors. Ask any guy who was in during desert storm. It happened, there were a number of females who were pimpin themselves out.

I still dont see what the big deal is.

Yes I know they were not rumors my husband was in the first gulf war. What people does not know is that they have a cruse ship in the cost Saudi Arabia where soldiers where taken to have fun.

Iraq is Islam so women are not expoused, this American women will not be seen as very moraly right or decent. Every thing that goes to the middle east with pictures of women have to be coveret not skin is to be expoused.

Hey, why not?? Its a diversion and i dont see anything wrong with it.
I'd do it myself and i'd win hands down...

Originally posted by dgtempe
Hey, why not?? Its a diversion and i dont see anything wrong with it.

Thats what I say, let em have a little fun...their young....their under-paid...over-worked...far from home and probably homesick for loved ones.

I wonder why President Bush Never speaks up for the troops when there is a problem?

I wonder why he always throws them to the Yapping Liberal dogs...while he and his administartion dodges blame?

Bush better start backing the military up, cause when young American men and woman decide not to join up anymore cause a NYT's reporter might just publish pic's of them that could get them into trouble....then we got real problems. Who will fight our war? Who will carrry the fight to the Islamic radicals?...The ACLU??....the NYT's??....CBS???....Katie "Koran" at Good Morning America??

Bush is no better than Kerry......just another suit.

Maximu§

I agree

Its just some young people blowing off a little steam. I also agree with LA Maximus....I think I will go lay down now.....LOL

This Admin needs to start standing behind its military.

"Soldiers Gone Wild"

Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf

Originally posted by Dr Love

OK Skadi, let me pose this question to you. If a soldier was to fail a drug test, in the war footing that we're in right now, what would happen to that soldier? I bet some some of these guys are hittin' the bong quite frequently during their down time. And I have an even harder time believing that they're not drinking. How do they calm their nerves other than with cigarettes? And I have an even harder time believing that there isn't more centerfolds hung up on the tent walls than American flags.

Peace

Then you obviously have never been in the military, have you?

We were stationed 6 months in saudi, where alcohol was forbidden. So we found other ways to amuse ourselves. And yeah, even in the current situation, they would indeed kick a doper out of the army.


Again, in such circumstances, there is little to do for fun. So people make their own fun. I know it may be hard for you to understand how people survive such miserbale conditions, but we do, and do it strangely.

No I haven't, I got enough of that crap when I was a kid in military school.

I guess I'll go with you on this one Skadi since you seem to be in the know. I can now see why these guys see it as "a hoot" to go out and shoot some people. These guys aren't allowed to do squat during their downtime.

Peace

There is nothing at all wrong with this. It is human nature. This is the kind of laws and regulations that come about when people in power (Generals, Colonels, civilians such as Rumsfield and Bush) are allowed to enforce their own moral values on a populace. In this case the US military. Make no mistake about it those in power would like the power to enforce their own will both moral, ethical and even religous on us the public. Thier are laws being fought out in courts across our lands this very moment that are trying to rob you of freedoms.

Mud wrestling hurts no one. If people want to do this it is thier buisness and not the governments to regulate.. even in the military. More and more as time passes generals and colonels in our military are being allowed to enforce their personal views. morals and ethics on the military members under their care. Did you know Americans are being forced to not wear long pants in Kuwait because some colonels do not like it, or think american sevices members that are off duty, should be allowed to wear normal American garb?

It is fact and there are many more rules like this with no justification other than some officers with power dont like it, or doesnt meet their personal values.

It is shamefull.

X

[edit on 8-2-2005 by Xeven]

Originally posted by dgtempe
Hey, why not?? Its a diversion and i dont see anything wrong with it.
I'd do it myself and i'd win hands down...

Now that's something I'd pay to see. You and marg.

Jsobecky, i like it when you're frisky When it comes to recreational activities, i say gor for it. They're not hurting anyone.

Well, it seems most of us are in agreement that there was nothing wrong with this activity. I agree, anything to blow off steam over here is worth it. If I heard there was two dead cats hanging on a wire, I'd want to go see it. Life gets pretty dull here, and without (officially) alcohol, you go crazy.

However, the pictures got out, and every whiner, radical, aint got nothing better to do but bitch, saw the pictures, it was SO wrong.

And I am sure, if it was looked into, there were some guys mud wrestling in there too. I know I would have been in that mud myself.

All for now.


Cheers!!

That's the problem with the military. Even your free time isn't yours. You sold your soul to the government when you joined. I won't give up my individuality, nor my life, for a paycheck. If it's education you want, there are many other ways to get it, that don't involve selling your personal freedom.