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Associated Press Corrects Big Falsehood In Four Trump-Russia Reports

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posted on Jul, 1 2017 @ 01:03 AM
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Associated Press Corrects Big Falsehood In Four Trump-Russia Reports



The Associated Press “clarified” a false claim it’s been running in stories about President Trump and Russia on Friday, conceding in a release it’s not the case that 17 intelligence agencies “agreed” on the hacking narrative.

The correction to four reports on Trump and Russia comes the same day The New York Times issued a similar correction to a Maggie Haberman report. Both TheNYT and the AP now say the claim they’ve been floating for months is incorrect. (RELATED: The NYT Issued An Absurdly Worded Correction On Russia. We Fixed It For Them)

“The Associated Press reported that all 17 U.S. intelligence agencies have agreed that Russia tried to influence the 2016 election to benefit Donald Trump,” the AP stated, citing four specific reports from as early as April that made the assertion. “That assessment was based on information collected by three agencies – the FBI, CIA and National Security Agency – and published by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, which represents all U.S. intelligence agencies.”

“Not all 17 intelligence agencies were involved in reaching the assessment,” the statement concludes.

The timing of both corrections is odd, since the facts of the claim have not changed since it began circulating in October of 2016, just before the presidential election, and the figure was clearly debunked as early as May of this year. Hillary Clinton used the large number to ridicule Trump on the campaign trail, and has reiterated the claim in recent months, along with other Democrats and members of the press.


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So, like the NYT the AP has now had to retract claims they made in 4 separate pieces dealing with the IC and the number of agencies that "supported" the claims, revising it from 17 down to 4 (technically 3 and the DNI).

The media keeps losing credibility and to be honest im not sure all the retractions are going to help salvage them. Bad reporting is one thing but when its intentional, and done in conjunction to assist a political candidate (Clinton) over others its just shameful.

Too bad the retractions dont get nearly the coverage as the original lies.



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posted on Jul, 1 2017 @ 01:09 AM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

It was suspiciously the same as the Dem party talking points. I wonder why?


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posted on Jul, 1 2017 @ 01:16 AM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra
Associated Press Corrects Big Falsehood In Four Trump-Russia Reports



The Associated Press “clarified” a false claim it’s been running in stories about President Trump and Russia on Friday, conceding in a release it’s not the case that 17 intelligence agencies “agreed” on the hacking narrative.

The correction to four reports on Trump and Russia comes the same day The New York Times issued a similar correction to a Maggie Haberman report. Both TheNYT and the AP now say the claim they’ve been floating for months is incorrect. (RELATED: The NYT Issued An Absurdly Worded Correction On Russia. We Fixed It For Them)

“The Associated Press reported that all 17 U.S. intelligence agencies have agreed that Russia tried to influence the 2016 election to benefit Donald Trump,” the AP stated, citing four specific reports from as early as April that made the assertion. “That assessment was based on information collected by three agencies – the FBI, CIA and National Security Agency – and published by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, which represents all U.S. intelligence agencies.”

“Not all 17 intelligence agencies were involved in reaching the assessment,” the statement concludes.

The timing of both corrections is odd, since the facts of the claim have not changed since it began circulating in October of 2016, just before the presidential election, and the figure was clearly debunked as early as May of this year. Hillary Clinton used the large number to ridicule Trump on the campaign trail, and has reiterated the claim in recent months, along with other Democrats and members of the press.


Click link for full article...

So, like the NYT the AP has now had to retract claims they made in 4 separate pieces dealing with the IC and the number of agencies that "supported" the claims, revising it from 17 down to 4 (technically 3 and the DNI).

The media keeps losing credibility and to be honest im not sure all the retractions are going to help salvage them. Bad reporting is one thing but when its intentional, and done in conjunction to assist a political candidate (Clinton) over others its just shameful.

Too bad the retractions dont get nearly the coverage as the original lies.


I am more so wondering why the other 13 or the IC did not correct the statement right away when it was made.

That has some stink on it right there.



posted on Jul, 1 2017 @ 01:31 AM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Xcathdra

It was suspiciously the same as the Dem party talking points. I wonder why?


The DNI is the head of 16 agencies. A statement coming out of that office that says the IC is in agreement means all groups agree. As we know now only 4 agencies helped produce the document, but that doesnt change the first fact that all group agree with the assessment. Pretty telling how right-wing supporters are distorting this into something malicious to bash the MSM with.


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posted on Jul, 1 2017 @ 02:00 AM
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a reply to: Pyle

It clearly says "Not all 17 intelligence agencies were involved in reaching the assessment". How do you know they agree if they weren't involved in making the assessment? Because you were lied to, and you believed it.



posted on Jul, 1 2017 @ 02:08 AM
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Ok , good to know
Thanks



posted on Jul, 1 2017 @ 02:12 AM
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Yessum, I've been saying this for 7 months or so:

The 17 agencies is just a joke; In reality it is just three agencies, CIA, NSA, & FBI.

(Office of DNI is a management position, not an agency.)




posted on Jul, 1 2017 @ 03:52 AM
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Old news, we knew this some time ago, yet many media outlets continued to circulate this falsehood. Guess their lies are starting to catch up with them.


originally posted by: drock905
a reply to: Sillyolme

From senate testimony May 8th


SENATOR AL FRANKEN: “The Intelligence Communities [sic] concluded, all 17 of them, that Russia interfered with the election.”
GENERAL JAMES CLAPPER: “Senator, as I pointed out in my statement, there were only three agencies directly involved in the assessment (CIA, NSA, FBI).
SENATOR AL FRANKEN: “But all 17 signed on.”
GENERAL JAMES CLAPPER: “We didn’t go through the process. It was a special situation because of the time limit, and I knew who could contribute to it and it was a conscious judgment to restrict it to those three.”

edit on 1/7/2017 by ChaoticOrder because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 1 2017 @ 03:59 AM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Pyle

It clearly says "Not all 17 intelligence agencies were involved in reaching the assessment". How do you know they agree if they weren't involved in making the assessment? Because you were lied to, and you believed it.


Because they can read the assessment and agree with it. Do you need to be involved in a report to read and agree with it?



posted on Jul, 1 2017 @ 04:47 AM
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originally posted by: Pyle

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Xcathdra

It was suspiciously the same as the Dem party talking points. I wonder why?


The DNI is the head of 16 agencies. A statement coming out of that office that says the IC is in agreement means all groups agree. As we know now only 4 agencies helped produce the document, but that doesnt change the first fact that all group agree with the assessment. Pretty telling how right-wing supporters are distorting this into something malicious to bash the MSM with.


You are so invested in the lie that you actually deny reality even when the admission comes that it was fake news. Indeed the head of the DNI at the time even corrected the Intelligence Committee on this.

Which part of this exchange are you having trouble with?


SENATOR AL FRANKEN: “The Intelligence Communities [sic] concluded, all 17 of them, that Russia interfered with the election.”

GENERAL JAMES CLAPPER: “Senator, as I pointed out in my statement, there were only three agencies directly involved in the assessment (CIA, NSA, FBI).

SENATOR AL FRANKEN: “But all 17 signed on.”

GENERAL JAMES CLAPPER: “We didn’t go through the process. It was a special situation because of the time limit, and I knew who could contribute to it and it was a conscious judgement to restrict it to those three.”


edit on 1/7/2017 by UKTruth because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 1 2017 @ 04:50 AM
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The AP has been caught again on ANOTHER story.


This time, the Associated Press invented an imaginary meeting between EPA administrator Scott Pruitt and Dow Chemical CEO Andrew Liveris, and then alleged that some kind of impropriety happened as a result.


www.breitbart.com... itt-meeting/

AP's correction:

In a story June 27, The Associated Press, relying on schedules provided by the Environmental Protection Agency, reported erroneously that EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt met with Dow Chemical CEO Andrew Liveris for about a half-hour at a Houston hotel. A spokeswoman for the EPA says the meeting listed on the schedule was canceled, though Pruitt and Liveris did have a ‘brief introduction in passing.’



posted on Jul, 1 2017 @ 06:59 AM
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All these corrections of fake news can't be a coincidence. They are either worried about a undercover sting video coming out or were forced to tell the truth by "fixers" who have something on them.

I believe that Trump has these "fixers" out there and investigators to uncover all the bull** and prove the corruption. He's draining the swamp and exposing the collusion of the dems and media.

Mueller is investigating the Russia collusion story and finding the media and dems ARE the collusion.



posted on Jul, 1 2017 @ 07:32 AM
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originally posted by: EchoesInTime
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All these corrections of fake news can't be a coincidence. They are either worried about a undercover sting video coming out or were forced to tell the truth by "fixers" who have something on them.

I believe that Trump has these "fixers" out there and investigators to uncover all the bull** and prove the corruption. He's draining the swamp and exposing the collusion of the dems and media.

Mueller is investigating the Russia collusion story and finding the media and dems ARE the collusion.



Maybe they are giving up the fight?

Scaramucci was gonna sue for $100 mil, maybe that rattled some cages too.

O'Keef says he's got some serious undercover vids from other news outlets he will be releasing soon.

So, the worms might be turning.







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posted on Jul, 1 2017 @ 08:08 AM
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a reply to: ChaoticOrder

Yes, very old news. But even politifact refuses to change the "true" ratingthey gave to Hillary Clinton's statement "We have 17 intelligence agencies, civilian and military, who have all concluded that these espionage attacks, these cyberattacks, come from the highest levels of the Kremlin, and they are designed to influence our election." It's all BS.
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posted on Jul, 1 2017 @ 08:26 AM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Pyle

It clearly says "Not all 17 intelligence agencies were involved in reaching the assessment". How do you know they agree if they weren't involved in making the assessment? Because you were lied to, and you believed it.


So do you trust the assessment that was made by the 3? Do you think the other 13 would come to a different conclusion if they had the chance to do their own assessment? It's not as if the other 13 dissented. This is more of technical detail than a bombshell - the top three intelligence agencies in the US, after making their own independent assessment, all agree that Russia was behind the election hacking. That's a pretty strong statement.



posted on Jul, 1 2017 @ 08:30 AM
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Remember, the anti trump people go hysterical when trumps exact words are not right.

I have seen people on ats claim that the most egregious lie trump told was about Obama wire tapping him.

We now know it wasn't a wire tap, but unmasking. Even the courts said the Obama admin went dangerously beyond what was allowed.

But still the anti trump crowd says because trump wasn't technically correct, he is a huge liar.

So by that standard, almost every dem politician and msm outlet has over and over again spouted this lie with the intent of harming the president.

I look forward to all of these people coming on this thread and voicing their outrage at all of these groups for lying, and apologizing for spreading those lies themselves



posted on Jul, 1 2017 @ 08:42 AM
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posted on Jul, 1 2017 @ 08:42 AM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

Ha ha. They all agreed to some extent four agreed wholeheartedly.
You don't think this is going to change the story do you?


Russia still hacked the election and real estate and money deals seem to indicate trumps campaign complicity in it.
Oh too bad....
This means less than you think it does.
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posted on Jul, 1 2017 @ 08:45 AM
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Or you were and do



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