WWII Survivor Warns of Socialism and Gun Control

a reply to: audubon

The Nazi party was the socialist party. How old are you? What the hell were you taught in school?

They were probably more "Catholic religious" than "Christian/Christ believing". ... Catholicism is nothing more than a political organization in a mask of "religion" for political, gain. Catholicism has never been "Christian"... Roman politicians couldn't stop "Christian beliefs", no matter how many they gave to the circus/lions. So they usurped it, "incorporated" into political and "civilized" belief. (Politicians are good at this). Making it a/the "Christian religion". That POS Hitler, was actually "blessed" by "The Church". That's a historical fact! Catholicism is nothing more than an extension of a "Roman Empire". People talk about "religion" in politics? How about politics in religion? Or? How to be relevant, without looking relevant? Don't confuse Catholicism with Christians. Catholics will do what "The Church" tells them. Christians will do what the bible says... Jesus/God brought freedom from religion/rituals... Politically speaking? The U.S.A. was a political blessing from god. To save his believers/people from "political rituals"...But they've F'ed that up also! Just like the chosen sons and daughters of Abraham...By God's grace, there was even a "court" of the "gentiles"... For "redemption", "prayer" and "offerings".
What am I trying to say?
1. Don't confuse a country of "almost all 100% Catholic" with Christian.
2. Re: Hitler, people will get everything they'll stand for, when they have no standards.
3.Politics/Religion, Religion/Politics... It's all the same without "law/standards". Lack of standards cause confusion. The C.O.T.U.S. was a standard ounce. But it's taught as a suggestion and not "The Law", kinda like religion. Which is what politicians, lawyers and priest bank on!
4. The U.S.A. ounce had standards.
5. The O'l gal in the OP is absolutely right. "Keep your guns".
6. The Bible said/says,.. "Sell your cloak and buy a sword". Or, .."Follow peace with all men, as much that lay within you". The "agnostic/atheist say, it contradicts itself. It doesn't!

originally posted by: Wide-Eyes
a reply to: audubon

The Nazi party was the socialist party. How old are you? What the hell were you taught in school?

Amazing isn't it. They only teach agenda driven bullsnip, aside from the core STEM programs, and even those are falling to the madness.

Presumably, you also think that The Democratic People's Republic of North Korea is also a democracy run by the people?

Seriously, you are just flat-out wrong. Go check any decent history book on Nazism and you will find that the party is classified as 'far-right'.

This isn't because historians are engaged in a conspiracy to smear the far-right by associating the far-right with Hitler.

It's because you are wrong.

originally posted by: audubon
Presumably, you also think that The Democratic People's Republic of North Korea is also a democracy run by the people?

Seriously, you are just flat-out wrong. Go check any decent history book on Nazism and you will find that the party is classified as 'far-right'.

This isn't because historians are engaged in a conspiracy to smear the far-right by associating the far-right with Hitler.

It's because you are wrong.

No. The Nazi party rallied themselves as Socialist because Germany was in dire straits.

Answer me this. Did the German people depend on the government more than their neighbours and family?
Where did their loyalties lie?

originally posted by: Wide-Eyes
No.

Yes.

This isn't up for debate. But anyways, if you want to carry on believing the Nazis operated on socialist principles and implemented socialist policies, you go right ahead.

On the other hand, you might wish to read up on 'The Night of the Long Knives', which was a real historical event and tells you everything you need to know about why the Nazis marketed themselves as 'socialist'.

a reply to: audubon

I just said that they rallied themselves as socialists.

a reply to: Krakatoa

The day we as a species can no longer understand the plays of William Shakespeare, is the day we have evolved beyond what we are today.

Shakespeare who?

originally posted by: Wide-Eyes
a reply to: audubon

I just said that they rallied themselves as socialists.

Reading comprehension is also a problem these days

A "Republic" is ruled/governed by a "law/standards". A "Democracy" is ruled/governed by a majority of the people, that most likely do not think/believe like you. Either form can be "Socialist", "Republic" or "Democratic". ..The world has many countries called the, .."People's Republic of..". Democratic Republic of...". Blah, blah and blah! Hitler wasn't so much a socialist, as nationalist. I find it funny, when socialist use the "bad Socialist" as an example of how a "Republic" or a "Democracy" should be. The U.S.A. is a "Republic" by "law", ruled by a "law". That even the "law", has to obey. It's not a "Banana Republic",.."Democratic" (never was),... Or Socialist..It was designed for the individual.

a reply to: olaru12
Old English can be confusing to "educated" people.

National Socialist German Workers' Party (German: Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (NSDAP)

The German people were loyal to Hitler and high on his rallies. Blind to his lies and evil nature. That's why a lot of germans left Germany in the late 1930's who did see what was happening. Hiel Hitler and all that.

originally posted by: murphy22
a reply to: olaru12
Old English can be confusing to "educated" people.

Not to mention "new" English to those ideologically challenged and blinded by partisan propaganda.

originally posted by: audubon

originally posted by: Wide-Eyes
No.

Yes.

This isn't up for debate. But anyways, if you want to carry on believing the Nazis operated on socialist principles and implemented socialist policies, you go right ahead.

On the other hand, you might wish to read up on 'The Night of the Long Knives', which was a real historical event and tells you everything you need to know about why the Nazis marketed themselves as 'socialist'.

Nazis were socialist, go to your local library and brush up on your history.
Nazism considered a far-right party, because the NSDAP clashed with other socialist parties, most notably the communists. As such they ended up being branded "right" because the communists were already branded "left". That the nazi ideology is extremely close to the communist ideology only goes to show how useless "left-right" is as a labelling. It tells you nothing.

a reply to: audubon
Audubon: I can get where you're going. But the NAZIS did exactly what the Communist in Red Russia did to gain power. Don't get me wrong, like I said, I get where you're trying to go. My question is? What "political party" doesn't? I know, "Socialism" sounds all "social" and stuff.. But jackboots, kicking in your door for "social/societies gain" (good of the people)?... Sounds very "Democratic" to me.

a reply to: olaru12
Ah? "Ideology". Now we're "talking"! LOL!

a reply to: Wide-Eyes

Guess you missed the message of the video. Nationalism disguised as socialism is what she is warning against. Even you concede that they "rallied themselves as Socialist". The more subtle point is that things are not always what they seem.

I'm pro-guns but if we are honest, better weapons will be needed if you intend on taking on the modern Armed forces of the USA.

I keep hearing about the line in sand from frogs in very warm water.

a reply to: daskakik
A butter knife will get a "better weapon" when used right. Don't worry about it. There's still some old school folks in the "modern armed forces" with standards, (Unless "old school" is what scares you)? They'll all be forced into retirement in 5, maybe at most, 10 years. With the dropping of standards for "recruiting". I'd start worrying in about 3 years. Untill then pick a descent butter knife and learn how to use it.
"National Socialism", "Socialism" Democracy", "Republicanism".."Communism", or Monarchy, historically have never worked. The U.S.A. was the last form of a "Republic". Then, the idea of a "Democracy" (a majority of public educated idiots) screwed that up! Did I mention, I collect butter knives?

a reply to: MOMof3
Cowards leave/run. They should've armed themselves and stood there ground. But I'm sure they were a "civil".. "Social" people/folk and didn't want to get envolved. I have no respect for them. I'm happy "they got out" but I have no respect for them. Who knows? Maybe one of them, doing the right thing, at the right time, (becoming a Soldier for 5 minutes).. Could've saved 20 lives on D-Day? Maybe one of these sheep, could've prevented D-Day?History will never know. They chose to get, while the getting was good. They survived, they're the "heroes"! Happy for them.