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First, an article out today in Nature Geoscience ponders the problem of why observed temperatures in the troposphere are not matching up with what the climate models have predicted. The lead author, Ben Santer, is one of the leading climatistas, so this article can’t be written off as “denier” distortions. (One of the co-authors is Michael Mann.) The complete article is behind a paywall, and while it is evident that the authors have done all the necessary contortions that essentially say “our models are just a little off” so as to convey a “nothing to see here” conclusion, the abstract can hardly be reassuring because it has to concede the problem.
No big surprises there, totally unrealistic to expect to get to 100 percent renewables by 2050. Now that Trump is president, scientists are willing to speak out. About bloody time!
Second, one of the heroes of the climate fantasists is Stanford’s Mark Jacobson, who has been arguing for some time now that the U.S. can get to 100 percent renewable electricity (wind, solar, and hydro) by the year 2050. His work is preposterous, and as I noted here once before, Jacobson is regarded as a joke by most of his Stanford colleagues. Some of them (along with heavyweight energy academics from Berkeley, MIT, and elsewhere—there are a total of 21 authors signed on) have joined a major article out today in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences that thoroughly rubbishes Jacobson’s fantasies:
Well, specifically democrats pushing for solar and battery tech grants. They are just trying to shut out the coal, natural gas, and petro guys. Who are predominately repubs.
originally posted by: TruMcCarthy
Global Warming has become it's own religion. Just as other religions will twist facts, or totally ignore them, to suit their own beliefs, Global Warming Worshipers do the exact same thing. And just like Organized religion, Global Warming is meant to keep the powerful in power, nothing more.
The science is mentioned in the blue colored links on the page.
originally posted by: game over man
The source in the OP is a biased website towards the Republican party. Not scientific in the least bit.
originally posted by: game over man
The source in the OP is a biased website towards the Republican party. Not scientific in the least bit.
originally posted by: game over man
The source in the OP is a biased website towards the Republican party. Not scientific in the least bit.
In classrooms and everyday conversation, explanations of global warming hinge on the greenhouse gas effect. In short, climate depends on the balance between two different kinds of radiation: The Earth absorbs incoming visible light from the sun, called “shortwave radiation,” and emits infrared light, or “longwave radiation,” into space.
Upsetting that energy balance are rising levels of greenhouse gases, such as carbon dioxide (CO2), that increasingly absorb some of the outgoing longwave radiation and trap it in the atmosphere. Energy accumulates in the climate system, and warming occurs. But in a paper out this week in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, MIT researchers show that this canonical view of global warming is only half the story.
Abstract
The growing amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is often considered as the dominant factor for the global warming during the past decades. The noted correlation, however, does not answer the question about causality. In addition, the reported temperature data do not display a simple relationship between the monotonic concentration increase from 1880 to 2010 and the non-monotonic temperature rise during the same period. We have performed new measurements for optically thick samples of CO2 and investigate its role for the greenhouse effect on the basis of these spectroscopic data. Using simplified global models the warming of the surface is computed and a relatively modest effect is found, only: from the reported CO2 concentration rise in the atmosphere from 290 to 385 ppmv in 1880 to 2010 we derive a direct temperature rise of $0.26pm0.01 text[K]$ . Including the simultaneous feedback effect of atmospheric water we still arrive at a minor CO2 contribution of less than 33% to the reported global warming of $[sim]1.2 text[K]$ . It is suggested that other factors that are known to influence the greenhouse effect, e.g. air pollution by black carbon should be considered in more detail to fully understand the global temperature change.
That is not a proven fact. It could be that the ocean are outgassing C02 as a result of warming, there is no way to know for sure.
The reality is we are flooding the atmosphere with CO2 as a direct result of our fossil fuel addiction. This will have consequences.
It may have some consequences, but not the consequences that have been presented in any of the research presented so far. I am all for cleaner sources of energy but not as a ploy for an energy coup.
originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: D8Tee
It seems you are the one who is constantly trying to cast doubt on the valid science on human induced climate change.
The reality is we are flooding the atmosphere with CO2 as a direct result of our fossil fuel addiction. This will have consequences.
First off. Co2 does have a great effect on greenhouse processes, however, the original studies (the same info referenced in Al gore's movie 1000 years ago) failed to add the additional variables that the earth has to deal with high Co2. Remember the dinosaurs? They lived in a very high Co2 environment for 100's of millions of years. Spokler!! The earth never died that whole time.
originally posted by: rickymouse
I'm not a big believer in the CO2 being such a big factor. I think that chemistry and over harvesting of forests that damages our ecosystems ability to repair itself is just as important. They have made this into a money laundering scam where money flows to scientists that back the scam. Yes, we need to cut emmissions. But we should not be giving rich people money to tell us this, there are a lot of people getting rich off of this climate change BS.
We are messing things up, climate change is real, the organizations are mostly scams though, they are more interested in helping their economies than our environment.
originally posted by: Woodcarver
First off. Co2 does have a great effect on greenhouse processes, however, the original studies (the same info referenced in Al gore's movie 1000 years ago) failed to add the additional variables that the earth has to deal with high Co2. Remember the dinosaurs? They lived in a very high Co2 environment for 100's of millions of years. Spokler!! The earth never died that whole time.
originally posted by: rickymouse
I'm not a big believer in the CO2 being such a big factor. I think that chemistry and over harvesting of forests that damages our ecosystems ability to repair itself is just as important. They have made this into a money laundering scam where money flows to scientists that back the scam. Yes, we need to cut emmissions. But we should not be giving rich people money to tell us this, there are a lot of people getting rich off of this climate change BS.
We are messing things up, climate change is real, the organizations are mostly scams though, they are more interested in helping their economies than our environment.