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Looking at the Fasle Flag potential of the Alexandria shooting

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posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 09:55 PM
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I never state dogmatic beliefs, and its way too early to say this looks like a False Flag, but this shooting like all mass shootings in DEEP STATE America needs to be looked under the microscope within the conspiracy context just like any of the past events

We here at ATS need to look into this….

This shooting has earmarks of a False Flag shooting within the internecine secret war going on…

What needs to be checked out is any reports of this guys name being put out before the shooting.

Interestingly, the CNN terror advisor already has put out the idea of Left-Wing terror on the rise---highly suspicious!

This tells us what the Deep State wants---and that is deep division...

Peter Berger a CIA, CNN expert, a clear CIA propaganda agent in the MSM put out a report that THIS SHOOTING MAY BE THE START OF A LEFT-WING TERROR CAMPAIGN…


The return of leftist terrorism?



www.cnn.com...
In this age of political polarization, the United States must be prepared for violence from the left, the right, jihadists, and also those who subscribe to hard-to-categorize conspiracy theories. One such recent example of conspiracy-inspired violence occurred not far from Alexandria, when a man armed with a rifle fired shots inside a Washington DC pizza joint, while he was there to "investigate" an Internet-fueled hoax that the restaurant was a front for a child sex ring organized by Democratic Party officials.


Remember always look to CNN on the CIA take on any issue like this...



An anti-Trump, Republican-hating Bernie Sanders supporter with a history of domestic violence has been identified as the gunman who opened fire on Republican members of Congress Wednesday morning at a baseball field in Alexandria, Virginia.


Looks too convenient for Trump, particularly THIS SHOOTING WAS DONE ON THE DAY IT WAS REPORTED TRUMP IS UNDER INVESTIGATION FOR OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE

We may be falling into the trap of whatever sinister force wants us to kill each other!

Facts

…Shooting takes the MSM obsession about Trumps legal issues…

…Shooting occurred the exact day the WAPO reported that Trump is under investigation for OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE


Just imagine the MSM HYSTERIA THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THERE HAD THIS SHOOTING NOT OCCURRED!

…Shooter is a perfect fall guy for the Trump apologists to blame the left Wing MSM for his problems.


Look under the surface people---we aught to know better than being lured into self-destruction



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posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 10:01 PM
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Obviously Trump was afraid the Republicans would lose the baseball game so he did what he had to do to keep it from happening.



posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 10:09 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

Leftist attack:

Its a false flag!!!

Literally any other attack:

Hold on guys, we don't know the motive. Don't jump to conclusions.

This is your life now lefties, you have to accuse everyone of doing the same thing that you were trying to debunk over the last 8 years.
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posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 10:11 PM
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a reply to: Willtell


The obstruction of justice leak wasn't until this evening! What time did the shooting happen?


Wow dude, how far can your arms stretch?



posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 10:18 PM
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False flag?

No, it really happened.

Psyop? Meh. I don't think so.

Promulgated by social engineering? Almost certainly.

America has been engaged in a culture war for years now without anyone realizing it. The Russians have subtly infiltrated social media and grass-roots organizations on the left and right.

Russia wants a divided America because it weakens the USA. A weak USA with weak ties to our European allies = stronger geopolitical position for Russia.

While we're all fighting over III%'ers and Antifi, Putin is quietly moving his chess pieces around Eastern Europe. Hell, they even teach this strategy to military academy students and political science majors in Russia. They've always operated this way, using psychology to infiltrate and undermine America. In the Cold War it was communism vs. capitalism, today? It's racial tensions and liberalism vs. nationalism.

But...due to all the stuff w/Russia and Trump, the Republicans and their conservative supporters won't even entertain the idea ... despite having been their biggest critics until Obama was elected in 2008. It's really, really weird to see.



posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 10:20 PM
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I cannot buy that.....here's why. The media has been demonizing Trump right out of the gate. They are constantly fueling this potential powder keg at every chance, and throwing half truths and blatant lies at the hard left...all day, all night, Russia, obstruction, etc,etc. Some unstable will react in a psychotic, homicidal twisted version of patriotism purely fabricated by the established power mongers whom own major media outlets. There is no way in he'll you cannot see this, it is the definition of crystal clear...before trump, almost ALL professional politicians got extremely wealthy AFTER they took office, how they do that??? Crooked, back room, lobbying, riders within bills that make them and their buddies RICH as hell at your expense. trump made his money, maybe his M/O is not polished bull#, but The left will not give him any chance like we did with Barry for 2 terms. Cute phrases like"own it", "triggered" and so sound damn stupid, but who got triggered by who here???



posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 10:23 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

IF this " Lone Nut " was Not a Documented Democratic Bernie Sanders Supporter , but a Crazed Republican Self Described Patriot Instead , would you Still say it Might be an Alleged " False Flag " ?...Hmm..

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posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 10:30 PM
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a reply to: teslahowitzer

Media
Establishment
Deep state
Foreign governments
Enraged dems and reps

All hate Trump.

But he got some random guy to cap a representative. For?



posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 10:38 PM
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a reply to: rockintitz

Again, who caused this is blatantly clear, this obstruction charge is pure garbage, read the damn thing for crying out loud, it's crap, just more fabricated fuel to drive the divide for a reason. Trump has no reason to draw a false flag, this is MSM2017...



posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 10:39 PM
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originally posted by: rockintitz
a reply to: Willtell

Leftist attack:

Its a false flag!!!

Have they blamed the Russians yet?



posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 10:46 PM
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a reply to: NthOther

Or maybe a collusion with the purchase of room service....



posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 10:55 PM
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originally posted by: rockintitz
a reply to: teslahowitzer

Media
Establishment
Deep state
Foreign governments
Enraged dems and reps

All hate Trump.

But he got some random guy to cap a representative. For?
. Ever ask yourself just exactly WHY all of these uber wealthy, power mongering established thieves are throwing anything they can at a non politician? What threat to them can Trump be? No other POTUS has been demonized like this. No false flag here, just constant non substance attacks to create a divide that is only real in the media's mind. You are a tool to them....Why?
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posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 10:59 PM
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originally posted by: NthOther

originally posted by: rockintitz
a reply to: Willtell

Leftist attack:

Its a false flag!!!

Have they blamed the Russians yet?


You are like little baby.

To blame the russians you must first blame someone loosely connected to someone in the US. Then by connection you must show link of an aid of an aid that ever said the word trump.



posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 11:15 PM
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This doesnt really make sense as a conspiracy theory / false flag, at least as the OP suggests. I guarantee the MSM will be all over the Trump obstruction of justice investigation from now until forever. Because RUSSIANS.

LOL

(Fyi i dont like Trump, but the new red scare is ridiculous)
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posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 11:21 PM
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Ungh...

Both the USA and Russia engage in "psyops" on the other's population.

To think that Americans are immune to foreign "psychological operations" is beyond stupid. What, did everyone just think Russia packed up their propaganda departments at the end of the Cold War?

America sure as hell didn't. America pushes propaganda agendas and campaigns around the globe in 3rd world countries, Iran, and even Russia too.

It's one of those wars that isn't fought with boots on the ground or planes in the air. Its fought on the TV, radio, music, and most recently social media.

It's a helluva lot cheaper to hire an s-load of twitter bots/paid shills behind VPNs vs. bombs, tanks and guns. If you can change people's minds, they'll do your work for you.

And as I said...it's not like we don't do it.



posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 11:27 PM
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originally posted by: Kettu
Ungh...

Both the USA and Russia engage in "psyops" on the other's population.

To think that Americans are immune to foreign "psychological operations" is beyond stupid. What, did everyone just think Russia packed up their propaganda departments at the end of the Cold War?

America sure as hell didn't. America pushes propaganda agendas and campaigns around the globe in 3rd world countries, Iran, and even Russia too.

It's one of those wars that isn't fought with boots on the ground or planes in the air. Its fought on the TV, radio, music, and most recently social media.

It's a helluva lot cheaper to hire an s-load of twitter bots/paid shills behind VPNs vs. bombs, tanks and guns. If you can change people's minds, they'll do your work for you.

And as I said...it's not like we don't do it.



posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 11:33 PM
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a reply to: teslahowitzer

Now that you understand the operations part...now think of pure agenda driven propaganda directed to the American people by the American government funded by the big money boys network using their owned media....because some outsider businessman is playing in THEIR playground and carrying a flashlight....



posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 11:34 PM
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a reply to: pirhanna

Don’t you see it’s suppose to be a war of factions amongst the elite…

Each side has False Flag operations


Remember 911?



posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 11:40 PM
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If it was a false flag, then they would have had this Hodgkins character in the works for like 5 years. His hatred for republicans was obvious to friends and as seen by his online postings.

I also question why they would do this in such a public setting. It would seem like a far better idea to have the shooting occur in a private location where they could control the situation much better.

Also, as other have mentioned, why would CNN now suddenly pull water for Trump?

Hey we are on ATS and I am willing to discuss things like this, but just because a group or person may benefit from a tragedy doesn't mean they orchestrated it.



posted on Jun, 14 2017 @ 11:41 PM
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Many people live and breathe the left/right war. The Deep State stokes these flames and this forum has attracted a disease of it.

A guy like this certainly is likely just a mentally ill person but they’ve used people like him many times...Remember Lee Harvey Oswald.

We know an elite faction within the MSM is on Trump’s behind like white on rice. Every day the guy gets another BREAKING NEWS story.


The other side has to hit back


I'm no Alex Jones where I dogmatically shout FALSE FLAG. But this has to be looked at as a potential one like everything in this sinister world

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