Scientists say: "Earth Axis Unstable"

I like what you did there.(smashing) just made my day. Off to yard work I go. Lets just hope with all the wine my axis doesn't shift my butt into the poola reply to: intrptr

a reply to: SlapMonkey

That is pretty contradictory, huh? Good catch. It sounds to me like the author wanted "dramatic effect" but didn't keep their message consistent as a result.

originally posted by: Allaroundyou
I like what you did there.(smashing) just made my day. Off to yard work I go. Lets just hope with all the wine my axis doesn't shift my butt into the poola reply to: intrptr

ROFL, 'Pooler' butt shift

(reeling)

originally posted by: galien8

originally posted by: Plotus
"Major axis shifts would lead to tectonic instability and gargantuan earthquakes and tsunamis, because of the wobble of the earth and the on the magma floating continents (Wegner)"


That's exactly what came to mind reading this. It's likely that if there was ever pole shifts, they would correspond with seismic movement as the continents did in past pole reversals. Continents rising, sinking, moving great distances. All of pre-histories past dynamic movements.

OK! I'm not native English, I thought wobble meant egg like earth, tangerine like earth etc. because of centrifugal forces, get it?, thats how I meant it anyways, but now I think wobble means random movement of the axis.

There has always been a wobble in it.

Picture the axis as a stick through the Earth that is always spinning. Now picture that the way that stick spins, it wobbles so that the point of the stick makes a circle while it goes.

Usually, this is a very slow process, the circle, but I guess this article is getting doomy and saying it could shift very suddenly along that circle.

Actually have none of you ever heard of a word called PRECESSION. I would strongly recommend all of you read up about it before coming out with such doom porn.

in my mind, the connecting of dots goes like this....

the Earth is under some sort of stress which is messing with the Earth Mantle and possibly the outer core...
the Mantle convections currents are causing most every long dormant volcano to erupt with lava or ash/gas clouds all around the globe

it is pretty clear that the Earth molten mantle is unbalanced, because the overheated mantle is escaping mostly in the Ring-of-Fire on the edges of the Pacific....
therefore the imbalance of mantle below the crust, and the lava on the surface is the cause of the Axis tilt changing... as a result of the Earths center-of-gravity changing ever-so-much


what is interesting about the Axis tilt changing even a smidgen is that the Earths' past 'tilt-of-Axis' was 23.5 degrees
which translates to 66.5 degrees from the Perpendicular
a move of the Axil tilt to 23.4 degrees will result in the Earth tilted at 66.6 degrees to the Perpendicular

(Ah Ha---- the dreaded "666" pops up again )


here's a visual aide:

originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: Allaroundyou
I like what you did there.(smashing) just made my day. Off to yard work I go. Lets just hope with all the wine my axis doesn't shift my butt into the poola reply to: intrptr

ROFL, 'Pooler' butt shift

(reeling)

HA HA HA , OMG, 'Pooler' butt shift. Like 'TILT' oops, GAME OVER

originally posted by: callmeanutcase2

originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: Allaroundyou
I like what you did there.(smashing) just made my day. Off to yard work I go. Lets just hope with all the wine my axis doesn't shift my butt into the poola reply to: intrptr

ROFL, 'Pooler' butt shift

(reeling)

HA HA HA , OMG, 'Pooler' butt shift. Like 'TILT'

oops, GAME OVER

I am still laughing. Shift, Wobble, Tilt, now dip baby dip. " I Love This Place".

*Cindy*

a reply to: galien8

First article is bit confusing however, for me as a layman, because it says that the axis tilted already 75 degrees and the North Pole is already in Africa where it would be now severe cold and have the "pole night". However same article also says a shift of only about 2 meter in 15 years or so.

The article does not say that the axis has tilted 75º, it says that since the year 2000, its direction of drift has changed by 75º from its long term direction of drift. That drift is very, very, very slow.


If you are talking about Figure 5, you are misunderstanding what is being shown. The chart represents the influences on polar motion as vectors. The lengths of the lines do not represent distances, they represent the magnitude of each influence. The blue line is the summation of the contributions to wander provided by the various mass redistribution factors (like melting ice) discussed in the article.

originally posted by: crayzeed
Actually have none of you ever heard of a word called PRECESSION. I would strongly recommend all of you read up about it before coming out with such doom porn.

Precession has nothing to do with polar wander. It does not represent a change in the Earth's axis of rotation. It represents a change in where the axis points in the sky.

a reply to: SlapMonkey

I mean, I understand the definition of "profound," and something that isn't very important and has no practical effects on something isn't exactly "profound."

A change in the movement of Earth's axis isn't profound? While the effects of that change are not profound, the change itself would seem to be. It takes quite a lot to cause even a tiny change.

But the importance of the study is in how polar wander may be useful in providing more data about climate change. More data about large scale changes in the distribution of water on the entire planet.

a reply to: Phage
No, I would argue that it's not all that profound. The Earth's axis moves all of the time, and up until very recently, we have not had a proof-positive way to measure it, even though we cite the way that the axis has shifted over different epochs.

That's great that the polar wander (which is 1-1.5 meters annually, and the direction of the change shifts constantly over time) can prove to be a useful study concerning how the climate changes, but my comment about the profoundness (or lack of it) was directed at the way that the cited story was written and the way that the back-to-back claims contradicted themselves.

You're making out my comment to mean something more than that, and that was not the intent of my statement.

Brings to mind an interesting sci-fi book I read a long time ago...

The HAB Theory

originally posted by: galien8

originally posted by: vinifalou
Nice! I hope it doesn't take too long. We need a reset.

THE RESET...SET, SET, SET (AHA)

Pretty sure you mean " The Reflex,flex,flex,flex"

Duran Duran.

a reply to: Neith

Hello there!

Perhaps you could take a few pics or videos next time? And maybe enlighten us with some mind blowing knowledge? Thanks!!

a reply to: Phage

The blue line is the summation of the contributions to wander provided by the various mass redistribution factors (like melting ice) discussed in the article.

Was about the world wide, spring thaw and melt runoff from all that winter snow and ice?
What about the three gorges dam in China? All that water build up have any effect?

a reply to: intrptr

A professor in Geology I know maybe believes a trend of 2 meter in 15 years, but he says rapid polar shifts like 30 degrees will not happen spontaneously

originally posted by: rickymouse
I actually did some studying on this a while back and we may have an impending shift coming. I tried to find if it would be better or worse for us here by reading possible quarter rotational turn which is what some of the articles stated. Well, I guess no matter which way things go, our Yooper weather will be the same. Lots of snow in the winter and mostly cool summers, just like it is now. Oh well, I suppose it could be worse, we could have weather like Texas or like Siberia.

There are many articles on this, a quarter shift is possible. There is evidence of this in some geological records that relate to the magnetic alignment of rock formations.

quarter shift 90 degrees tilted? Oh boy, that would be the end of the world as WE know it, Nature will continue though

originally posted by: Plotus
Picture an elliptical orbit..... only slightly less pronounced, much less pronounced. Your picture of an Egg approximates the condition trying to visualize the phenomenon.

there will be earthquakes (in waves) until the floating continents established a new equilibrium

a reply to: galien8

Your articles are mainly about the poles, not the axis - Are you confusing the magnetic poles with the Earth's axis?