a reply to: Argentbenign
You said "Yeah there are beasts among them"...and then you said "Who made them that way?"
I know for sure that you don't have to be a beast to disagree with our way of life and make it your goal to change our culture. As to who made them
that way, all I know it wasn't the little boys and teenage girls and woman who got gang raped, molested in public places such as swimming pools
I want to make one thing absolutely clear. The one thing you and those that think like you never contemplate and that is that people from other
cultures have a different mindset to Europeans.
A different mindset that is often [I am not saying always] absolutely incompatible with ours.
There is a childish ignorance about this fact. Yes we are all genetically human and the same but the way you are brought up, the values you have, the
belief you harbour WILL shape the way you see others and the way you behave.
Plus you dare say [even if it is in a convoluted way] that the victims of these violent barbarians deserve what they are getting or have to accept
their fate because somehow it is their fault that politicians made a decision? [Who made them this way....]
I am getting really sick here from the mindbending trivialisation of the fact that young, horny men from a very restrictive and religious background
have to somehow be 'understood' when they attack innocent women who were living in previously safe countries [yes they were safer back in my days] and
behave like a kid in a sweetshop when it comes to sex?
You are telling me that these young, horny, angry, religious men who come from a culture where women are just not equal have to be forgiven when they
behave like animals [sorry animals]? Every person is responsible for their own integrity, self restraint and empathy. Why are you giving them
You are telling me that all I experienced for myself and other people too is just in our head? Are you saying that there really, really is absolutely
no difference between an orthodox muslim and a European? Are you kidding?
It's denial, pure and simple denial of what everyone can see for themselves, in order for you to feel good.
I can't believe this ignorance as a woman. I can't believe that someone can be so naive. We will never integrate these men or their families if we
think that way. Let me tell you that I KNOW there are very decent folk among them, how can there not be? But to say it is only a handfull of nutters
that taint the rest show that you don't understand that cultures and especially religious beliefs have a MIGHTY influence on millions! Even if they
are peaceful, doesn't mean that they agree with our open mindedness, our beliefs our culture and don't want to change it into theirs.
Therein lies the problem [Elephant in the room].
There is a PROBLEM and no, none of the victims are at fault; yet they pay the price!
There is a problem and NONE of the people whose countries have changed forever are at fault.
There is a problem and it's called culture clash which is VERY real and desperately NEEDS to be discussed URGENTLY, without calling the concerned,
that they are somehow racist or bigots.
Is anyone actually on our culture's side here or would you prefer theirs? It seems to be the latter is the case. Shame on you!