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originally posted by: neutronflux
2) Please quote from my posts where I have stated eyewitness accounts are unreliable.
originally posted by: neutronflux
2) Please quote from my posts where I have stated eyewitness accounts are unreliable. I have stated eyewitness accounts not backed by physical evidence have no context. (I have asked this of the other person, please show we're they found the statement they are referring to.) When I see disagreement between witness statements, physical evidence, recovered data, and other accounts, I provide cited sources and facts.
4) Please stay on topic. This thread is about a missile used at the pentagon.
originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: MotherMayEye
Can you even prove who asked who to lie?
Can you use facts and evidence to outline your allegations, or you just going to make allegations of lies with no proof. More blind character assignation without giving them a chance for defense? You don't have the right to claim anyone is lying unless you can substantiate with facts.
The burden of proof to prove lies is on you!
Replacing speculation for eyewitness accounts backed by evidence is not responsible doubt.
Please provide the two requested quotes of the statements you alleged I have made.
Please provide evidence and proof that discredit the eyewitness that give an account of a passenger jet hitting the pentagon.
The burden of proof is on me? Funny I can list evidence and eyewitness counts that shows a passenger jet hit the pentagon.
What have you provided in the pursuit of honest debate?
originally posted by: neutronflux
5) Provide evidence and facts of the scores of individual eyewitness, backed by data and physical evidence, that you are using to discredit their witnessing of a passenger jet hitting the pentagon.
originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: MotherMayEye
Then you need to discredit all the individual eyewitness accounts backed by evidence that give an account of a passenger jet hitting the pentagon.
If you are alleging those accounts given by individuals in good faith are deficient in some way, then the burden to prove those allegations is on you!
What proof have you provided that discredit individuals witnessing a passenger jet hitting then pentagon?
originally posted by: MotherMayEye
originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: MotherMayEye
Then you need to discredit all the individual eyewitness accounts backed by evidence that give an account of a passenger jet hitting the pentagon.
If you are alleging those accounts given by individuals in good faith are deficient in some way, then the burden to prove those allegations is on you!
What proof have you provided that discredit individuals witnessing a passenger jet hitting then pentagon?
No, I don't. I have no authority to question/cross-examine any of them under oath or penalty of perjury.
Dream on.
I am merely weighing the known evidence and witness statements that have been presented to the public. And there is reasonable doubt as to the credibility of witnesses who have never had their accounts & motives challenged.
originally posted by: neutronflux
originally posted by: MotherMayEye
originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: MotherMayEye
Then you need to discredit all the individual eyewitness accounts backed by evidence that give an account of a passenger jet hitting the pentagon.
If you are alleging those accounts given by individuals in good faith are deficient in some way, then the burden to prove those allegations is on you!
What proof have you provided that discredit individuals witnessing a passenger jet hitting then pentagon?
No, I don't. I have no authority to question/cross-examine any of them under oath or penalty of perjury.
Dream on.
I am merely weighing the known evidence and witness statements that have been presented to the public. And there is reasonable doubt as to the credibility of witnesses who have never had their accounts & motives challenged.
You can challenge them in a civil suit right now?
originally posted by: MotherMayEye
originally posted by: neutronflux
originally posted by: MotherMayEye
originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: MotherMayEye
Then you need to discredit all the individual eyewitness accounts backed by evidence that give an account of a passenger jet hitting the pentagon.
If you are alleging those accounts given by individuals in good faith are deficient in some way, then the burden to prove those allegations is on you!
What proof have you provided that discredit individuals witnessing a passenger jet hitting then pentagon?
No, I don't. I have no authority to question/cross-examine any of them under oath or penalty of perjury.
Dream on.
I am merely weighing the known evidence and witness statements that have been presented to the public. And there is reasonable doubt as to the credibility of witnesses who have never had their accounts & motives challenged.
You can challenge them in a civil suit right now?
Ha, ha...on what grounds could I challenge them in a civil suit? What legal injuries have I sustained that others haven't? What is my 'standing' to challenge them?
You really don't understand the justice system.
Even if I could challenge them in court (which I cannot), who has the resources to do such a thing?
All I can do is weigh the evidence the federal government has been willing to share against the evidence that ordinary folks have dug up and decide if the federal government has proven its case beyond a reasonable doubt. They haven't.
originally posted by: neutronflux
Make your case using facts to supersede the fact a passenger jet hit the pentagon. Or even list facts that support this threads opening premise?
originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: MotherMayEye
list specific reasons why you cannot pursue a civil case if there is reasonable doubt in the commission's conclusions?
originally posted by: Informer1958
a reply to: neutronflux
Hear say, hear say, hear say, she said this, he said that, yet no physical evidence is available to support the OS.
The government only has to lie to me once, why should I believe in anything they have to tell me? Using fake mainstream media is what gave us most of the os narratives, now they all been proven liars.
Most Americans scoff at the OS of 911, I been reading thousands of comments all over the internet for many years, very few believe in the OS of 911.
In fact, I did a poll many years ago on ATS, and most ATSer's did not believe in the OS hands down.
It's also a true statement most American's don't trust the truth movement too.
If you are accusing the eyewitnesses that give an account of a passenger jet hitting the pentagon are lying, then those individuals have a right to know you are calling them out. Saying they are lying, or part of a conspiracy with no evidence, is pushing into the territory of slander.