California To Consider Enacting Statewide Sanctuary

Does that mean all illegals will flock to Cali and stay there?

Cool.

Im in Ohio 👌

a reply to: eisegesis

So you want to keep a permanent underclass of strawberry pickers forever?

originally posted by: crankyoldman
When a person is born...the government borrows money in your name from the IMF, through the federal reserve, which YOU swear to repay with interest over the course of your lifetime. Last I read it was something around 6 million bucks plus interest.

That's got to be "pre-fake news", if I ever heard such trash.

originally posted by: AMPTAH

originally posted by: crankyoldman
When a person is born...the government borrows money in your name from the IMF, through the federal reserve, which YOU swear to repay with interest over the course of your lifetime. Last I read it was something around 6 million bucks plus interest.

That's got to be "pre-fake news", if I ever heard such trash.

Well taxpayer money pays the interest on U.S. Treasury Debt securities.

originally posted by: xuenchen

Well taxpayer money pays the interest on U.S. Treasury Debt securities.

The US hasn't used any taxpayer money to pay interest on any debt obligation for decades.

How do you think the debt "grows" ?

To pay the interest on old debt, the US Government issues new debt.

And foreign nations like China buy that debt.

The US just prints more money every year, and issues more T-Bills, T-Notes, and T-Bonds every year, to raise money for all its operations.

Taxpayer money is not sufficient to pay anything.

If the Tax payers were actually paying the interest on the debt, then the size of the debt would remain the same.

The debt wouldn't keep growing.

But, the debt grows, the same way a bank savings account grows, by "compounding" the interest on the funds.

Taxpayers may "owe", but they don't "pay" anything.

All the legal issues and resource issues aside, it would be fascinating to watch.

I wonder what they would use to frame their new government?

Would it be the Constitution or something else entirely?

This really is an interesting "thought exercise".

What would their government look like?

Would they have the same freedoms as the US?
More?
Less?

Who would be their leader and what kind of elections would they have?

originally posted by: AMPTAH

originally posted by: xuenchen

Well taxpayer money pays the interest on U.S. Treasury Debt securities.

The US hasn't used any taxpayer money to pay interest on any debt obligation for decades.

How do you think the debt "grows" ?

To pay the interest on old debt, the US Government issues new debt.

And foreign nations like China buy that debt.

The US just prints more money every year, and issues more T-Bills, T-Notes, and T-Bonds every year, to raise money for all its operations.

Taxpayer money is not sufficient to pay anything.

If the Tax payers were actually paying the interest on the debt, then the size of the debt would remain the same.

The debt wouldn't keep growing.

But, the debt grows, the same way a bank savings account grows, by "compounding" the interest on the funds.

Taxpayers may "owe", but they don't "pay" anything.

Only $139 Billion for the last 3 months.

$439 Billion FY2016.

Interest Expense on the Debt Outstanding

HEre is how you fix the problem of californias police. federalize them. Then they have to obey or quit.

It's Nancy on a tirade !!!


Nancy Pelosi: "Sanctuary Cities Make Us Safer"

Nacy Petosi is another good for nothing fat rat politician that has wasted the tax dollars of working Americans so she can pander to anybody but the American people.

She is an example of what a human being were never mean to become crap.

originally posted by: Tardacus
That would make the governor and state legislature guilty of conspiracy to violate federal immigration laws.

arrest them all and charge them, make an example of them, nobody is above the law.

if they are found guilty of aiding and abetting illegal immigrants the law provides that all of the states assets can be confiscated by the federal government to be sold at auction.

(b) Seizure and forfeiture
(1) In general

Any conveyance, including any vessel, vehicle, or aircraft, that has been or is being used in the commission of a violation of subsection (a), the gross proceeds of such violation, and any property traceable to such conveyance or proceeds, shall be seized and subject to forfeiture.

www.law.cornell.edu...

And while we're in a multi-axis spin about SCOTUS and Cabinet
picks, the Joint Chiefs get pulled off the National Security Council;
www.abovetopsecret.com...
MEANING:
It may be possible we're seeing a revolt pre-crushed by the 'normal',
but quite militarized police... in some handy avoidance of
violating Posse Comitatus. Maybe just a little preventive medicine.

The reason I'm re-purposing that little gift given to us under the
table, that carried almost NO media attention-- is because a no
fly zone over the whole state of CA is what made everybody,
including Texas nervous when they threatened to split the corp
party. I could be paranoid and more than a little ignorant, but
have a decent memory.

In the meantime a Democratic Strong or stranglehold is allowed
to show the rest of us they can do very well without federal
nose-poking-- or media meddlers. I'll also sit back and watch the
California economy gag on its fake economic numbers, among others.

I also have a decent enough memory to remember their budget
woes dragging them into the spiraling bowel water (no typo).
Wonder where that news cycle went?

originally posted by: Rezlooper
a reply to: neo96

This would be cool because then we'd get to see if California can survive without federal funds. The feds need to cut them off completely if they do this and then we'll see if they are self-sufficient.

And the other bonus would be that it may become a liberal utopia where they all start to flock, leaving less of them voters in the rest of the states assuring Republican victories for years to come. Ahh, just wishful thinking.

So brilliant, it took a caveman to come up with it.
And if it works, the dominoes will all fall in. I really can't though
picture 48 continental rez's with a bunch of hapless regulators
getting regularly run off by the farmers.
I however CAN picture the spectacle of these guys and
gals purposely going full Darwin on the voting demographic--
and the hollywoodies getting their gated communities comman-
deered BWAAHAhahaaaa. You can call me Dr. Chicago comrade.

It's a shame the radical left seem to represent CA as a whole because this really isn't the case. Large portions of the state really aren't in line with these views, just the city centers with the most crime and economic strife.

I'm just waiting for some sensible people in the "rest" of the state to stand up and say..."enough is ENOUGH! You don't represent us, and if you don't like it...GET OUT!"