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National Geographic’ just made history with its new cover--9 year Old Transgender Activist

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posted on Dec, 20 2016 @ 06:56 PM
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a reply to: DeadMoonJester

What the hell did I just read???




posted on Dec, 21 2016 @ 12:08 AM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: pompel9

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: Winstonian

Blaire is to the trans community what Milo Yiannopoulos is to the gay community. Both are rather narrow minded, ultra conservatives. They absolutely do NOT speak for everyone in the LGBTQ community.

Blaire is disingenuous when she implies that children at the age of 9 are undergoing medical procedures to transition. They are not, and the child in National Geographic is not.

Blaire is also not a healthcare professional, and she doesn't speak for most of them either.


Are your a health care professional? Or a transgender?

If not, then I take the word of Blair over yours.


Are you a transgender?

Have you done research on this and followed it for years?

Your response is one of ignorance.


No, I am not. I never said I was. And neither are you, your response is one of ignorance. I didn't ask you either, so please refrain from speaking for other member, ok?

Blaire White is a trans, and have more knowledge about this than you. She is living as a trans, you do not live as a trans.

You know, it is funny that you, the white knight of trans-people are actually bashing a trans. But I guess it should not come as a surpise, since she is neither liberal or feminist, which make her a bad person in your eyes.

/rant



posted on Dec, 21 2016 @ 12:09 AM
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originally posted by: veracity
a reply to: pompel9
it really matters to no one whose word you take over who, kayla posted that as informational, take it or leave it but no need to tell us what you choose to do.


Please stop speaking for other members, kayla can talk for herself.



posted on Dec, 21 2016 @ 12:24 AM
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originally posted by: kaylaluv

originally posted by: pompel9

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: Winstonian

Blaire is to the trans community what Milo Yiannopoulos is to the gay community. Both are rather narrow minded, ultra conservatives. They absolutely do NOT speak for everyone in the LGBTQ community.

Blaire is disingenuous when she implies that children at the age of 9 are undergoing medical procedures to transition. They are not, and the child in National Geographic is not.

Blaire is also not a healthcare professional, and she doesn't speak for most of them either.


Are your a health care professional? Or a transgender?

If not, then I take the word of Blair over yours.


I guess you didn't see my earlier post where I linked to healthcare sites with treatment guidelines from healthcare professionals. Don't take my word for it. Take theirs.


You stated falsely that Blaire said that this trans-person was transitioning. No she didn't, she said she was against transitioning in early age. You should listen to what she says one more time.

I do, but I listen more to actual trans-genders. They live with this condition, I do not and you do not live with this condition. And neither does the doctors.
Just because she does not agree with you politically, does not mean she is a crazy person. She is actually very rational.



posted on Dec, 21 2016 @ 01:54 AM
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originally posted by: pompel9

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: pompel9

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: Winstonian

Blaire is to the trans community what Milo Yiannopoulos is to the gay community. Both are rather narrow minded, ultra conservatives. They absolutely do NOT speak for everyone in the LGBTQ community.

Blaire is disingenuous when she implies that children at the age of 9 are undergoing medical procedures to transition. They are not, and the child in National Geographic is not.

Blaire is also not a healthcare professional, and she doesn't speak for most of them either.


Are your a health care professional? Or a transgender?

If not, then I take the word of Blair over yours.


Are you a transgender?

Have you done research on this and followed it for years?

Your response is one of ignorance.



You know, it is funny that you, the white knight of trans-people are actually bashing a trans. But I guess it should not come as a surpise, since she is neither liberal or feminist, which make her a bad person in your eyes.

/rant


Stating fact is not bashing.

I think Blaire White makes some cisgenders feel safe.

She is non-threatening to them.



posted on Dec, 21 2016 @ 01:57 AM
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originally posted by: pompel9

originally posted by: veracity
a reply to: pompel9
it really matters to no one whose word you take over who, kayla posted that as informational, take it or leave it but no need to tell us what you choose to do.


Please stop speaking for other members, kayla can talk for herself.


Kaylaluv can speak up for me anytime.

We've been through a lot of these threads together.



posted on Dec, 21 2016 @ 02:14 AM
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a reply to: Sublimecraft



obligitory summary - :

" a boy without a winkle = a girl "

but watch the clip - it is hilarious



posted on Dec, 21 2016 @ 02:16 AM
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a reply to: seasonal

wow - 9 is not even 10 yet

fook me - you must be the brains of the outfit



posted on Dec, 21 2016 @ 06:31 AM
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originally posted by: pompel9

originally posted by: kaylaluv

originally posted by: pompel9

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: Winstonian

Blaire is to the trans community what Milo Yiannopoulos is to the gay community. Both are rather narrow minded, ultra conservatives. They absolutely do NOT speak for everyone in the LGBTQ community.

Blaire is disingenuous when she implies that children at the age of 9 are undergoing medical procedures to transition. They are not, and the child in National Geographic is not.

Blaire is also not a healthcare professional, and she doesn't speak for most of them either.


Are your a health care professional? Or a transgender?

If not, then I take the word of Blair over yours.


I guess you didn't see my earlier post where I linked to healthcare sites with treatment guidelines from healthcare professionals. Don't take my word for it. Take theirs.


You stated falsely that Blaire said that this trans-person was transitioning. No she didn't, she said she was against transitioning in early age. You should listen to what she says one more time.

I do, but I listen more to actual trans-genders. They live with this condition, I do not and you do not live with this condition. And neither does the doctors.
Just because she does not agree with you politically, does not mean she is a crazy person. She is actually very rational.


I listened to what she said. She was specifically talking about the trans kid in National Geographic. She was against this trans kid transitioning at 9. This trans kid is not transitioning in any permanent sense - only being allowed to dress like a girl and have a girl's name. That's it. Blaire is being disingenuous by implying that anything permanent is going on with this 9 year old.

I listen to plenty of actual transgender people. Have you read Freija's posts on this thread? I know other trans people personally. My teen daughter has a trans teen friend and they discuss this subject.

Blaire is not the only trans person out there, and she definitely does NOT speak for all trans people, nor does she speak for mainstream healthcare organizations throughout the world.



posted on Dec, 21 2016 @ 06:34 AM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: pompel9

originally posted by: veracity
a reply to: pompel9
it really matters to no one whose word you take over who, kayla posted that as informational, take it or leave it but no need to tell us what you choose to do.


Please stop speaking for other members, kayla can talk for herself.


Kaylaluv can speak up for me anytime.

We've been through a lot of these threads together.


Same goes for you, friend.



posted on Dec, 21 2016 @ 08:36 AM
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originally posted by: pompel9

originally posted by: veracity
a reply to: pompel9
it really matters to no one whose word you take over who, kayla posted that as informational, take it or leave it but no need to tell us what you choose to do.


Please stop speaking for other members, kayla can talk for herself.


lol



posted on Dec, 21 2016 @ 08:43 AM
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a reply to: pompel9

You're no different than a traditional conservative black knight.

Congratulations, 1 transgender agrees with you.

I'm transgender, and I don't agree with you.

Guess what? Blaire White is massively outnumbered for her opinion of the subject, when it comes to transgenders.

You're a hypocrite telling these people they have no right to an opinion, when you have even less of one.



posted on Dec, 21 2016 @ 06:23 PM
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originally posted by: kaylaluv
Blaire is not the only trans person out there, and she definitely does NOT speak for all trans people, nor does she speak for mainstream healthcare organizations throughout the world.


Blaire illustrates the problem's with 1 person trying to be a spokesperson for everyone.
Why put that onto a 9yr old kid?



posted on Dec, 21 2016 @ 08:06 PM
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originally posted by: Krahzeef_Ukhar
Why put that onto a 9yr old kid?


Because that seems to be an effective way to spread a message and almost somewhat of a tradition. How can you spread awareness of something that affects kids without kids?


Besides, Avery on the cover is not the only one nor the first one but one of many. Search Youtube for transgender kids/children. Some kids WANT to do this without any encouragement because they know it helps other kids and families. I post here for the same reason: awareness.



posted on Dec, 21 2016 @ 08:33 PM
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originally posted by: Freija

originally posted by: Krahzeef_Ukhar
Why put that onto a 9yr old kid?


Because that seems to be an effective way to spread a message and almost somewhat of a tradition. How can you spread awareness of something that affects kids without kids?


I'm not sure if the effectiveness of it is the best argument. But you are absolutely correct that they have to be involved. It's the level of involvement I struggle with.

I just think the kid has enough on her plate.

I have no doubt is for the greater good, but that kid is taking a bullet for the trans community.
That shouldn't be overlooked.



posted on Dec, 22 2016 @ 02:47 AM
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a reply to: kaylaluv

Exactly what it is about my post that would make you write anything like that? It's pretty much what has happened.. I dare you to refute the general message of the post.



posted on Dec, 22 2016 @ 04:11 AM
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I had a friend who was a nurse back in 1964, she said many kids were being born as ,sex indeterminate, then fixed with the best option decided by the house surgeon using his judgment as a minor medical procedure. Its not politically correct to do this now days, but it might dropped the number of people that require corrections later on in life.



posted on Dec, 22 2016 @ 06:03 AM
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originally posted by: anonentity
I had a friend who was a nurse back in 1964, she said many kids were being born as ,sex indeterminate, then fixed with the best option decided by the house surgeon using his judgment as a minor medical procedure. Its not politically correct to do this now days, but it might dropped the number of people that require corrections later on in life.

Please do not confuse intersex conditions with those of transgender persons. One in 1500 to 2000 births require a specialist be called in to determine a child's sex at the time of birth. In fact, having an intersex conditions is a contraindication for the diagnosis of gender dysphoria but there may be similarities or similar issues. Learn more from the Intersex Society of North America. The FAQ page is very informative. Although some intersex people do transition genders much the way transgender people do, they are not considered transgender. From some of the things I've read, they like being called trans about as much as they like being called hermaphrodites. Not so much, in other words.

Surgery just to normalize the appearance of genitalia in an infant is a little bit more than non-PC. It is morally and ethically wrong unless there are metabolic or functional problems. Surgery should be up to the person involved when they've reached an age of understanding and consent, not parents or doctors.



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