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Matt 8:22
But Jesus said to him, “Follow Me; and allow the dead to bury their own dead.”
Luke 14:26
"If anyone comes to me, and doesn't disregard his own father, mother, wife, children, brothers, and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he can't be my disciple.
Then you find yourself having to maintain some sense of equilibrium between the world and the spiritual. Soon, you begin to become impersonal with your environment
But what is the Truth? Who is worthy to reveal the Truth to us?
originally posted by: BELIEVERpriest
"The environment you dwell in already owns you".
... you are still a slave to your physical environment...
Are you a slave to your environment or to the Truth?
But what is the Truth? Who is worthy to reveal the Truth to us?
Then you find yourself having to maintain some sense of equilibrium between the world and the spiritual. Soon, you begin to become impersonal with your environment.
When you make the two into one, and when you make the inner like the outer and the outer like the inner, and the upper like the lower, and when you make male and female into a single one, so that the male will not be male nor the female be female, when you make eyes in place of an eye, a hand in place of a hand, a foot in place of a foot, an image in place of an image, then you will enter [the kingdom].
I Am not a 'slave' to anything!
I/We and the environment, and I/We and Truth, are One and the same!
Your error is 'discriminating/judging' the words by he who speaks them, rather then not paying any attention to the fallacy of authority, and evaluating the words themselves!
Truth is ALL INCLUSIVE!
Everything is Truth
Anyone who can see it can reveal it.
Objective truth is all spanning measurement of all that was and will be including all levels and data in creation. Inside itself it contains all beings perception of what is even if their perception of "what is" is less than ideal (caused by subjective dissonance) that have to be stored in real time so that you can see how the perception changes with time.
originally posted by: BELIEVERpriest
a reply to: namelesss
I Am not a 'slave' to anything!
I/We and the environment, and I/We and Truth, are One and the same!
Wouldn't you say that losing your identity to environment or Truth is in itself a form of slavery? I don't assume that slavery is automatically demeaning. It can go either way.
Your error is 'discriminating/judging' the words by he who speaks them, rather then not paying any attention to the fallacy of authority, and evaluating the words themselves!
Truth is ALL INCLUSIVE!
Everything is Truth
If everything is Truth, and it is ALL INCLUSIVE, then wouldn't the "fallacy of authority" be Truth too.
Sounds like a paradox to me.
I judge the words of those who claim to be speaking Truth, because Truth must be accepted upon faith when it is outside of our realm of empirical observations. For example, you could say that the universe has always been, then I can reply that it was created at some point by an Architect. What makes my words anymore worthy than yours, since neither of us have been around long enough to know for sure.
The only parameters that would make a feature of Truth to be 'true/lie' (is 'thought'), is if one removes all except the small sandbox of 'logic' or 'science'.
Philosophically, scientifically, we can now have truths and lies.
Same with many other little truncated sandboxes.
Take away the truncation and limitations of Perspectives, and Truth is, indeed, One!
So who is worthy to reveal the Truth? Only God Himself.
Truth/Reality/God is One!
ALL INCLUSIVE!
That means that there is not anything that exists that is not 'Truth/Reality/God'!
That means that every hand is God's hand, that every mouth is God's mouth, that every eye is God's eye and every word is God's word!
Anything 'less' than that is merely an appearance due to the inherent limitations of unique individual Perspectives, and the schizophrenia of believed 'thought'..
"Let he with ears hear!" *__-
originally posted by: BELIEVERpriest
a reply to: namelesss
Explain how separating one's identity from environment makes them schizophrenic? Jesus called it sanctification.
Basically, one realizes that their environment is in direct opposition to a particular spiritual truth, and therefore chooses to serve the Truth rather than serving the environment.
Going with the flow is not always the best choice.
The Truth encompasses all, including environment, but environment does not have virtue of its own. It is simply a setting.
originally posted by: BELIEVERpriest
a reply to: namelesss
Are you saying that you don't believe in choice?
originally posted by: BigBrotherDarkness
a reply to: namelesss
The I am is indeed a slave to things...
I am now becoming this I am now becoming that... birth and death, ignorance of not knowing what you are now becoming is ignorance of the selfhood the hood of darkness one hides their face behind in attachment to forms or roles.
The story called: The Hungry Catapillar; sheds two cocoons...
How many husks does one have to shed through life over and over again? To let go of form or even imagination the dream is imagination so who is the dreamer cutting flowers right before they blossom, well who awakens and grabs a form they are most familiar with? Oneself or all of those that feel forsaken? What happens when one steps out of time... in the dance of life does the tune ever stop or just get cut off in understanding, see manifestation 101.
Clones or "gods" try to manifest themselves, why? To prevent extinction; ideals and ideas are not life they are the first step out of the void the one the all the nothingingness the beginning the end the alpha the omega but the loop is infinity like escher's stairs, so instead of running the mind around on 5 senses one can stop and simply see, one can cease to hear and simply understand or empathize, when one smells what is decieving them the nose of the thirst the craving the hunger or the avoidance? Taste depends on attachment to sight and form and sounds of what one dreams as existant and real as a "self" the bee knows that all pollen will transform into honey... what provides the milk? The very stream itself in which all else flows the fire in the cauldron the wind in the bellows the wings that beat...
All of the above is chaos and yet perfection the collide-o-scope or kalide-o-scope? Depends on what lens one is trying to live through...