Animals are more evolved than humans!

MOD'S, I apologize if I have placed this in the wrong venue, please, feel free to move it where you think it belongs. For the record this is not a rant.

The animal kingdom gets a bad rap. Humans think they are more superior and I have come to the conclusion that humans are delusional on this fact.

Animals do not feel the need to wear clothes to hide their inequities, they are not vain, sitting in front of a mirror, looking at themselves and pretending how pretty or handsome they are. They do not try every silly fad diet to lose weight, unless forced to by a human slave owner.

They are not confined to any specific space, unless obnoxious humans decide to put them there. They sleep where and when they want. They eat what they want. They do not need religion to be spiritual creatures. They crap where they want.

They do not ride in buses, cars, planes, trains or on motorcycles and bicycles. They do not pollute the planet, unless you count flatulence. They work together to achieve common goals, like finding food or building homes. They procreate for survival. They do not engage in pornographic endeavors.

They do not have political turmoil, they do have a pecking order, based on age and respect. They do fight for territory, but they don't launch bombs and shoot each other to achieve this. They do fight for instinctual survival.

They do not have a monetary system they are bound to. They do not have the need to buy worthless crap. They do not have to worry about overzealous police officers. They don't start fires. They do what they can to preserve their habitat.

They don't have to rely on technology and walk around texting each other to communicate. They do not need reality BS television to amuse themselves. They don't get pleasure from other animals distress. They don't call each other names and bully because of gender issues. They are not prejudiced to color, race or creed. They do not discriminate against minorities and take advantage of the young and weak and old and feeble.

Animals are beautiful creatures that do not hunt humans for sport. They don't run around cutting off body parts for aphrodisiacs. They don't do medical testing on humans to find cures.

I am sure there are many more instances of animal behavior that I could write about, but you get the point humans, you are not superior, you are inferior, no matter how you want to rationalize it, humans are selfish egomaniacs and animals are not. Humans are arrogant and obnoxious, animals are not. Humans are greedy and vain, animals are not.

Humans may do some pretty stupid or bad things, but when was the last time an animal went to space, or wrote a symphony.

Technically, humans are animals.

a reply to: searcherfortruth

The violent protesters are an exception to that theory.

Yeah, Humans are making a mess of things. There are bugs that are smarter than people, they have hive intelligence. People think that the size of the brain is what makes them smart, that is false. The efficiency and frequency of the brain is what is important. People think because we develop weapons and tools that we are the smartest. We destroy our environment in the process of accomplishing this. Do we really need to go to Mars? Do we really need all the Nukes we have? Wouldn't it be easier to just live in peace than to start wars? If ETs do exist, they must think of us as primitive, even the whales and porpoises must feel sorry for us for our stupid ways.

We will indirectly destroy our environment just so we do not have to do any physical work then we pay to join a health club to get exercise. Think of how stupid that sounds.

(This is photo is not of a real badger reading a book)

a reply to: searcherfortruth

We are animals.

Many animals show similar cultural traits with humans. Some hunt for sport, engage in ritualistic acts and even beautification.

You can't compare humans to animals. Animals are highly diverse. It's like comparing red to every other colour, individually you might see similarities with other colours but saying all other colours are not like red is a fallacy.

Nearly everything you mentioned is mirrored in the animal kingdom, a snail wears clothes. A monkey uses tools to acquire honey or insects, I've seen birds of pray hunt for sport and I always notice ritualistic activity within the animal kingdom.

We are animals. More advanced and probably more confused than any counterpart nature has to offer but in no way different.

But you still eat them, right Searcher?

I don't eat them. I also like animals more than most humans. They are honest. People aren't.

I might point out this previous post of yours:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Here you talk about how filthy and disgusting pets are, how unsanitary they are, and perhaps most tellingly, about how you kicked and almost broke a dogs jaw when it frightened your child. You seemed proud of this.

Your last OP was about a hunter who was almost killed by an elk he was hunting. You expressed great pleasure in the man's near death, telling us how evil was for hunting. This all after you posted a recipe for chilli containing not one, but three animals.

You sir are the biggest hypocrite on ATS.

There is no such thing as "more evolved", and humans are animals.

a reply to: searcherfortruth

And you're not going out to a natural habitat, ripping all your clothes off and living like an animal because....?

Humans are more evolved than all but possibly 2 or 3 other animals (dolphins, ants, and perhaps whales). The only differences in humans and other animals (we are all animals) is that our intellect is what evolved in us.

Appearance is very important for most animal species. And for the same reason as it is in mankind . . . to attract a mate.

They are confined to the area/space where they can survive best, they sleep where, eat what, need and or like (many have preferred tastes just like man). They crap as far from their sleeping quarters and food as possible usually, man has just simplified this process and made it more sanitary. You're right, they are not spiritual . . . they don't have that emotional need to create something greater than themselves (they are too busy surviving).

Many animals do ride other animals the same as we use vehicles. If you are talking about CO2 as pollutants, then you should be counting the flatulence of animals, it makes up a lot. People work together for these things as well. Animals procreate for survival AND recreation (the same as people).

Their pecking order is their politics, and some animals simply have a class system (much like the old feudal or current socialistic systems). War is war, man just uses intellect instead of claws and teeth.

Some animals do have barter systems, which is all that money really is. No they don't have police, they have strong-arm rule (do you prefer that?). They are not intelligent enough to light fires, or they would cook their foods. Many animals are too dumb to preserve their habitats and inadvertently destroy them, while others survive off destroying habitats.

They don't have to rely on technology and walk around texting each other to communicate. They do not need reality BS television to amuse themselves. They don't get pleasure from other animals distress. They don't call each other names and bully because of gender issues. They are not prejudiced to color, race or creed. They do not discriminate against minorities and take advantage of the young and weak and old and feeble.
Yes, many animals gain joy from the distress and pain of other animals. They watch each other for entertainment as well. And yes, most animals are very prejudice based off of physical traits. And almost all animals discriminate against and take advantage of minorities, disabled, small, weak, young, and old.

Animals did hunt humans for both sport and food prior to humans evolving past them on the food chain.

All of your points are baseless. Did you bother to watch any animals (other than your pet dog . . . no it would behave as I described as well) before typing this absurd rambling? The fact is that all your negative traits of man are simply traits of animals. Man is nothing more than a more evolved and thus more efficient animal. That means man does all these things you complain about better than other animals. Is that a good thing? Probably not, but there it is.

I wouldn't say animals are more evolved at all. In fact, I don't think animals evolve at all, except maybe to adapt to the way humankind has forced itself info everything.

I've actually mused over this exact subject many times and can never really wrap my head around it.

It's kind of hard to explain, but simply put, I don't believe we are a part of nature or the natural order of things. We obviously have an intelligence that surpasses any other form of intelligence here on earth. How did we become intelligent? How is it that we were able to evolve more INTELLIGENTLY than any other species?

While it seems that rest of the world shares a mutualistic relationship with the planet, why do humans share more of a parasitic relationship? Why do we feel its necessary to be anything other than what we are? Why should we be allowed to fly like birds? Or swim for longer than we are able to hold our breath?

Honestly, in my opinion, the human race would have died off ages ago if not for our intelligence. So why is it that we weren't naturally given these things that we have cheated at? Why do we feel superior over everything and that the world is ours to do with as we please?

I really don't know! But asking myself these things have led me to only one conclusion: maybe the human species isn't supposed to be here at all....

Other animals do not take away or deny other animal's habitats, at least as long as they do not become more 'evolved".

originally posted by: AdmireTheDistance
There is no such thing as "more evolved"

^ this

I mean...you can say "more evolved", but it doesn't really quantify anything.

Humans are more evolved than a majority of other animals/insects/etc. in being able to carry things while moving around.

Owls and bats are more evolved in utilizing sound to identify where things are so they can eat.

Basically repeat this "more evolved" stuff for a majority of living things on planet Earth. You reach the conclusion that "more evolved" is meaningless unless you reference it to something.

Biologically, socially, using communication... there are so many facets of evolution. And most living beings have several highly adapted characteristics. Whether that means more or less evolved than another living being, in most cases doesn't provide any clarity on the subject.

It seems most people who say humans are more (or less) evolved than animals/insects/etc. are doing so from the vantage point of technology (and to a lesser extent, culture). The culture comparison seems erroneous to me because the more humans study animal behavior, the more amazed they are at how complex and structured the given animal society/culture is. We just don't understand it or think it's meaningless (regardless of the findings OR because we're ignorant of the findings).

Humans certainly are more advanced with their technology. If you look at any other living things on earth, we have an order of magnitude (or perhaps many orders) greater tools. At this point, you could start getting meta and wonder whether we handle this technology in an appropriate way for ourselves, the Earth, or the other living beings on Earth. (But this starts getting into a whole philosophical line of reasoning which may never be resolved or agreed upon).

Anyway, I'm all for animals and nature and the Earth. I think that lots of things we as humans do is largely negative in regards to everything (including ourselves). At the same time, there are positive things that come out of it. Whether there are more negatives than positives (or vice versa) is also debatable.

I guess the point behind all these things is to say that we really have no way of "measuring" the level of evolution for anything, including ourselves. (Also - don't forget that via evolution, many advantageous traits e.g. strength, eyesight, etc. have actually become worse or even lost)

If you encounter a lion, it will kill you. For the reason because you were just there. Not because he is hungry or because you are a threat, but because you were just there at a bad time.

Only thing animals are more evolved than humans are killer instincts. Animals will kill you for no reason. All of them wild bunch. At least some humans wont.

a reply to: ZeroFurrbone

Did you seriously just say that animals are more evolved in with killer instincts than humans? We are talking homo-sapiens here right? You know, the things which come up with more efficient ways of killing each and every year?

Some basic Biology 101:

Animals and humans do, in fact, evolve.

No organism is "more advanced" or "more evolved" than others, since all living things share a common ancestor and have been evolving for the same amount of time. The difference is in the types and numbers of unique traits that differ among species.

But we have all been adapting to the planet for just as long. Some species (like certain insects, mollusks, fish) haven't seen changes in their most obvious characteristics due to natural selection as much as others have.

a reply to: JDeLattre89

I saw that as well.

Animals will kill you for no reason. All of them wild bunch. At least some humans wont.

Humans, I'd say, are pretty much the ONLY species that kill for pleasure rather than necessity. Lions may in fact be a wild bunch but aren't accustomed to hunting humans on a daily basis. Coming across one would be more interesting than threatening. Well, at first, I'm sure. Lol. But because of our evolved intelligence, hopefully you'd be smart enough to back your way out before he decided he might try you out for lunch.