Trump Back Up in the Polls

originally posted by: burgerbuddy

originally posted by: Metallicus
a reply to: JinMI

I don't trust any of the polls regardless of who they say is up. My concern is that Hillary has the electoral college in her pocket even if she loses the popular vote. If it is even close the Elites will cheat to win.

Are the electoral voters identities public knowledge?

Just askin'

Yes after the election each state is required to submit to the national archives a document called a Certificate of Ascertainment which lists the following: candidates for president and vice president, their pledged electors, and the total votes each candidacy received.

You can find 2012's results here: Here

originally posted by: conspiracy nut
a reply to: carewemust

the democrat/republican 2 party system is a huge scam to keep americans against each other. we should have the opportunity to hear all the top candidates debate each other, instead we get these two forced down our throats.

Lot o fun though. Better than a Barnum-Bailey Circus...
Enjoy. It will be over too soon , just like Hee Haw

originally posted by: burgerbuddy

originally posted by: Metallicus
a reply to: JinMI

I don't trust any of the polls regardless of who they say is up. My concern is that Hillary has the electoral college in her pocket even if she loses the popular vote. If it is even close the Elites will cheat to win.

Are the electoral voters identities public knowledge?

Just askin'

A State picks two piles of electoral delegates, one pile for each candidate and whoever wins the State gets their pile sent to the electoral college. May be a few weird states that split according to vote.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: JinMI

Not sure what this is supposed to mean. Can't take the obvious hypocrisy we are pointing out?

LOl so are you trusting this poll? I bet not.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: JinMI

That's cool. Glad to see that it's ok to trust the polls again. So now that we trust the polls, care to post some battleground polls?
Like Colorado or New Hampshire or Wisconsin or Pennsylvania or Michigan? You know all those states that Trump needs to sweep to win the Presidency?

Actually, if Trump takes AZ, NV, IA, FL, NC, GA, and OH which is looking entirely possible, he only needs CO to win. Clinton's lead there is right around the margin of error.

If the polls show Trump is down, they're a scam contrived by the MSM, not to be believed.

If the polls show Trump is gaining, even tied with the Clinton campaign, they're not a scam and to be believed.

Good grief... people are hypocritical.



Best advice? Don't believe anything other than your own personal gut instinct when you cast your vote. Leave the spin in the gutter where it belongs.

a reply to: JinMI

Haven't you heard...suddenly nearly a third of republicans are voting for Hillary...in Florida.

Link

Does anyone else see a giant red flag here?

I am having a very difficult time believing this.

I hope people are paying attention.

originally posted by: Metallicus
a reply to: JinMI

I don't trust any of the polls regardless of who they say is up. My concern is that Hillary has the electoral college in her pocket even if she loses the popular vote. If it is even close the Elites will cheat to win.

Exactly... This 100%.

originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: JinMI

So now that he's back up you can trust the polls again? It's hard to keep up.

No, it just means he's even more ahead than he was. That same ABC poll, when it had Clinton up by 12, only represented Republicans at 27%. That's very bad news for Clinton, and now Trump is over her in that poll which is extremely bad news for her. So I still don't trust polls.

originally posted by: oddnutz
a reply to: buckwhizzle

I would be more concerned if Trump wins the election. Most of the violence, hatred, viciousness, anger and deplorable behavior has come from those opposed to Trump as far as I have seen. If that's how they behaves at just the thought of a President Trump how will they behave if he is elected?

They'll slither back under their rocks when he wins.

Here's a new Poll (Los Angeles Times) that has Trump now up by 5.4%

Trump Up By 5.4%

The LA Times Poll has consistently shown Trump as slightly ahead (sometimes slightly behind) Clinton...but it seems to have started to trend sharply higher since about the time of the 3rd debate.

Interestingly, when these same people are asked who they think is going to win, Clinton is up by 12.9%. I'm not sure if that reflects Trump's supporters' concerns about a "rigged" election...or just some kind of general pessimism that Trump won't be able to carry the day (even though they, personally, intend to vote for him).

originally posted by: masqua
If the polls show Trump is down, they're a scam contrived by the MSM, not to be believed.

If the polls show Trump is gaining, even tied with the Clinton campaign, they're not a scam and to be believed.

Good grief... people are hypocritical.

Best advice? Don't believe anything other than your own personal gut instinct when you cast your vote. Leave the spin in the gutter where it belongs.

You kind of miss the point, maybe.

Trump supporters disavow the Polls that show Clinton winning, when they over-sample Democrats to arrive at this result.

So...when using this same slanted methodology, a Poll shows Trump actually leading - that is significant. That would suggest that Hillary is hemorraghing Democratic supporters and Trump is picking up more Independents.

It will be interesting to see what the breakdown is with early voters...and what will prove most decisive - Hillary's ground game, or Trump's enthusiasm factor. And, of course, this is really a State-by-State battle, not an overall popular vote contest.

a reply to: mobiusmale


I always thought it ironic that the LA Times runs unfavorable Trump stories daily, yet their poll consistently shows Trump ahead. Not to mention that California is "all in" for Hillary. Why California citizens like a crook this time around, is really strange.

a reply to: goou111

I don't see any reason not to trust it. I can see how the national polls can tighten while the state polls still paint a picture of Hillary winning by a landslide. I mean if all or most of Trump's support is located in states with low electoral college counts (which is currently true) then Hillary will take home more big take states.

originally posted by: Arizonaguy

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: JinMI

That's cool. Glad to see that it's ok to trust the polls again. So now that we trust the polls, care to post some battleground polls?
Like Colorado or New Hampshire or Wisconsin or Pennsylvania or Michigan? You know all those states that Trump needs to sweep to win the Presidency?

Actually, if Trump takes AZ, NV, IA, FL, NC, GA, and OH which is looking entirely possible, he only needs CO to win. Clinton's lead there is right around the margin of error.

Not according to the Colorado polling link I just provided. Plus running all those states is also unlikely since many of them are currently tied.

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: mobiusmale


I always thought it ironic that the LA Times runs unfavorable Trump stories daily, yet their poll consistently shows Trump ahead. Not to mention that California is "all in" for Hillary. Why California citizens like a crook this time around, is really strange.

Well, there is more than one reason they call it the Left Coast.

Some day (soon?) California, like Detroit and Puerto Rico before it, will have to file for bankruptcy...maybe (only maybe) then they will begin to awaken from their socialist utopian stupor.

When they are finally crushed by the fiscal and societal weight of tens of millions of illegal immigrants, and sanctuary city felons, maybe they will go...hmmm.

Or, maybe not...maybe they will become like the Greece of America, expecting the hard-working productive people in the rest of the Union to prop up their leftist unproductive ways, ad infinitum.

a reply to: mobiusmale

As the sixth largest economy in the world you better pray that doesn't happen as America's economy will be made or broken by California's.

It's a good thing that facts disagree with you though. California Makes America's Economy Great

It's not just big, but also booming. California had a 3.29 percent growth rate last year, more than five times that of No. 3 Japan, almost twice No. 4 Germany, about half again as much as No. 5 U.K., almost three times No. 6 France and a third more than No. 1 U.S.

California last year created the most jobs of any state, 483,000, more than the second- and third-most-populous states Florida and Texas combined (they added 257,900 and 175,700) and at a faster rate than any of the world's developed economies. The pace of employment growth was almost triple the rate of job creation for the 19 countries that make up the euro zone and more than 3.5 times that of Japan, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.

Wow. That seriously looks like an economy teetering on the verge of bankruptcy to me... Oh wait no. The other thing. It looks like a massive economic boom.

Hey, look everybody, polls matter again. Funny how that works.


But hey, I guess if the polls matter again then everyone agrees that Trump's path to 270 is currently not looking very good.

a reply to: carewemust

It's California. These are the people that elected Sunken Eyes Pelosi.

originally posted by: kruphix
Hey, look everybody, polls matter again. Funny how that works.


But hey, I guess if the polls matter again then everyone agrees that Trump's path to 270 is currently not looking very good.

Another one that failed to read all the posts. Multiple posters have said they still don't trust the polls. I sure don't. ABC has him up by 1 point now, when he was down by 12. But that poll represented 27% of Republicans. If he's only up by 1, he must really be blowing her out.

Get it now?