What is the second Amendment for?

Originally posted by General Zapata

Originally posted by cavscout
Outdated how? The intent was that no government that could come into power would be able to outgun, and therefore enslave, the common man. Nothing has changed since then, other then the fact that we are less free then the colonists were under British rule.

Isn't this just symptomatic of the gun-crazy american culture, though? I agree, citizenry need to be able to fight off any government attempting to transgress on liberty. However, do we really need average joes armed to the teeth?

Also on this point, where were the supporters of the 2nd amendment when the patriot act came into force? They were praising Bush on another good move to restrain those damn pinko liberals. Isn't this the kind of thievery of liberties that the 2nd amendment was meant to protect against?

Hehe, the patriot act also puts a watch on citizens who are "armed to the teeth"

I know such people, and they are no different than the average joe except that they have a lot of guns and ammo.

It's the domestic terrorists like Tim McVeigh who justify there violence to "preserve freedom" who make militia groups/armed citizens look bad.

Originally posted by RedOctober90
It's the domestic terrorists like Tim McVeigh who justify there violence to "preserve freedom" who make militia groups/armed citizens look bad.

First, McVeigh didn't justify violence against anyone but himself.

Second, he was not a member of any militia, and the infact got kicked out of the only militia meeting he is known to have attended. Anyone who thinks Tim McVeigh makes militia groups and armed citizens look bad is stupid, and needs to get their facts strait.