Are flush toilets pagan?

a reply to: halfoldman

I can't believe the Ark Encounter in the US has male restrooms.
You should get a shovel and a Reader's Digest.
There's the field.
God bless ...

a reply to: halfoldman

Every public park should have a shovel.

The law says they need the shovel attached to their sword. So, "bring your own sword/shovel tool"

a reply to: halfoldman
S&F for the funniest thread title and subject matter I've read all day.

originally posted by: pthena
a reply to: halfoldman

Every public park should have a shovel.

The law says they need the shovel attached to their sword. So, "bring your own sword/shovel tool"

And we shall call them "shworvels™".

I just googled "sword shovel" and THEY EXIST!

Here's a LINK

I need one!

a reply to: halfoldman

"Are flush toilets pagan?"

Most of them are Armitage Shanks round these here parts.

a reply to: andy06shake

OMG! Probably where the Satanic Lizard People lift their tails.
They probably made Hitler's porcelain in world War Two, and now anybody who sits on them is guilty.
A bit like Fanta and IBM.

If you start reading at 23:9 instead of 23:12, you'll see that it's talking about when camping against enemies. Here's the New International Version (HERE):

9 When you are encamped against your enemies, keep away from everything impure. 10 If one of your men is unclean because of a nocturnal emission, he is to go outside the camp and stay there. 11 But as evening approaches he is to wash himself, and at sunset he may return to the camp.

12 Designate a place outside the camp where you can go to relieve yourself. 13 As part of your equipment have something to dig with, and when you relieve yourself, dig a hole and cover up your excrement. 14 For the Lord your God moves about in your camp to protect you and to deliver your enemies to you. Your camp must be holy, so that he will not see among you anything indecent and turn away from you.

Do not be deceived, God will not be mocked.

Halfoldman you should be be proud of your sewage post. It shows an astute comprehension of meaningless facts.

There are however Old Testaments rules to avoid illness and sickness that were well known. Preparation of food, sanitation and disease avoidance.

a reply to: Plotus

Cheer up!

Go check out my link in my above post. If real shworvel™ doesn't cheer you up, then all hope is lost.

a reply to: enlightenedservant

They were all on a massive camping trip in the first five books of the OT.
Not to disrespect that.
I mean just because a dude must poop doesn't rule out the rest.
So now we have to go into hermeneutics.

If you take something out of there (and I'm not saying all Christians, Muslims and Jews do), you have to apply all of it.

But if it only counts for them, what?
I can take a dump in the Vatican or in Mecca?
It's OK?

a reply to: Plotus

Thanks, this was not a rule on sanitation?

Who's mocking God?

How to deal with waste is the cornerstone of sanitation.
It's the best thing in the Bible for me.

a reply to: halfoldman

To be fair, I tried using a similar argument. The person in question (who I believe is no longer active here) pulled up some NT verses (sadly I cannot recall where to find them - or the thread) and made a convincing theological argument for a lot of the crazy OT commandments that don't need to be adhered to because of x, y, or z.

It was definitely something else Jesus said though.

But that doesn't change the fact that there are some Christians who still believe those old laws are to be followed. I even had one here tell me, that if it wasn't for US law, he would support the notion of executing those of us that are heathens or break other laws of the Lord.

a reply to: WakeUpBeer

Hear, hear!

a reply to: halfoldman

The reason I posted the entire section of passages is because it's literally talking about when in camp against enemies. As in, during specific instances. Ever see a camping shovel? That's the kind of equipment it sounds like it's talking about.

Who in their right mind takes a crap in the middle of their own camp? When hiking or camping out, it's literally the basics to go outside of the camp, dig a hole, "fertilize the ground", and then cover it up. Large groups may set up an impromptu outhouse/latrine, dig ditches, or the such, but the overall point is still the same.

a reply to: enlightenedservant

I like your interpretation.
But if you say it only counts on a war expedition (which it should) then a lot of dietary rules fall away too when the expedition ends.

But it's such a taboo topic.
How we got to the Western toilet is rather convoluted.
And many cultures are still not happy with it.

I've heard in India they use state-built toilets as storage rooms.
People still go outside.

We think it's the norm, but it's not for everyone.

Flush toilets can release the siht-sprites.

Flushing the toilet with the lid up can spray diarrhea-causing bacteria into the air, according to a new study of hospital toilets.
abcnews.go.com...

Which may or may not be related to the Golgothan siht demon.

monster.wikia.com...

a reply to: teapot

Yeah, a bacterial-aerosol device!

I heard still in China there's often a stick with a sponge.

Otherwise there's nothing you can touch.
No door, no tap.

Feces ridden bacteria made airborn via a flush.

Ain't nothing like it on Earth. Better than the sunrise, or sunset.

God's best invention, next to scapegoats.

Even on the "Gypsy Weddings".
I thought they'd like a caravan with a small toilet.
But no, they said they never buy a caravan with a toilet.
It's like taking a dump in your kitchen for them.

a reply to: WakeUpBeer

That comforting flush ...
The end of civilization.