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Are flush toilets pagan?

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posted on Sep, 7 2016 @ 07:47 PM
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a reply to: halfoldman

Maybe if I decide to follow Jewish law someday I'll get myself a litter box.




posted on Sep, 7 2016 @ 07:55 PM
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a reply to: halfoldman

As great a point, and as funny as this thread is, I have actually always found the food safety and sanitization laws/guidelines of the Bible to be most impressive for their time.

That said, hear ye this, Jewish and Muslim ATSers, if God knew how we prepared and cooked bacon today, He would surely allow it's consumption.

:: Remembers the law of supply and demand::

Nevermind, bacon is evil, for everyone!! Don't eat it! (More for me!!)



posted on Sep, 7 2016 @ 07:55 PM
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a reply to: halfoldman

I think you're just intentionally misinterpreting it. The set of passages speak for themselves. And in context, they're clearly talking about cleanliness when in a literal camp against an enemy. I'm not a Christian or a Jew so I'll gladly let them go into further detail on other passages & their bearings on cleanliness in the Old Testament.

But I had to point out what seems like an obvious attempt to mock those specific Scriptures. Anyone who actually read the 3 lines before the ones you referenced in the OP could see what it was talking about.
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posted on Sep, 7 2016 @ 07:56 PM
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originally posted by: halfoldman
Otherwise there's nothing you can touch.
No door, no tap.


Traditional values, still know how to siht in the woods like a bear. So is the bear a catholic?



posted on Sep, 7 2016 @ 08:08 PM
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I think there's a huge difference between "mocking" and "parody'.

In our culture parody can be the highest form of praise.
But interesting.
As I said if it's specific to that situation, then so is the Ark (very specific), dietary rules and let alone the tale of Sodom and Gomorrah.
But yet they pick and choose situations, not on what it says but how they see fit.
It's literal or not?

You can't have your cake and poop it.
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posted on Sep, 7 2016 @ 08:40 PM
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a reply to: teapot

Does Barbie have a plastic ... you know.
Actually let me go check.



posted on Sep, 7 2016 @ 08:49 PM
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I just think every man should have a backyard and a shovel.
In a SHTF situation water and plumbing cuts out first.



posted on Sep, 7 2016 @ 10:17 PM
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originally posted by: dogstar23
a reply to: halfoldman

As great a point, and as funny as this thread is, I have actually always found the food safety and sanitization laws/guidelines of the Bible to be most impressive for their time.

That said, hear ye this, Jewish and Muslim ATSers, if God knew how we prepared and cooked bacon today, He would surely allow it's consumption.

:: Remembers the law of supply and demand::

Nevermind, bacon is evil, for everyone!! Don't eat it! (More for me!!)


Would you eat your dog? (if you have one). If not, then why? Cause, pigs are pretty much smarter than dogs. Guess they lose though...cause they "taste good". The Chinese think dogs and cats taste good, too. So, where do you draw the line?



posted on Sep, 7 2016 @ 10:19 PM
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originally posted by: NOTurTypical
a reply to: halfoldman

Maybe if I decide to follow Jewish law someday I'll get myself a litter box.


Huh...Jesus "supposedly" followed Jewish law. "Supposedly". I'm still waiting for someone to explain how he violated all of it, yet was still "the sinless lamb of God".
Could you possibly enlighten me?



posted on Sep, 7 2016 @ 10:28 PM
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originally posted by: halfoldman
a reply to: enlightenedservant

I think there's a huge difference between "mocking" and "parody'.

In our culture parody can be the highest form of praise.
But interesting.
As I said if it's specific to that situation, then so is the Ark (very specific), dietary rules and let alone the tale of Sodom and Gomorrah.
But yet they pick and choose situations, not on what it says but how they see fit.
It's literal or not?

You can't have your cake and poop it.


OHHH, but they can, don't you see? As a Christian, you get to pick and choose what you want to hold to, because you are either....
1] Listening to Jesus
or
2] Listening to Paul

3] Or...listening to :YHWH

So, hey...take your pick.

Oh wait, I forgot...you can listen to Jesus who said "not one jot or tittle" of the LAW would ever be lost until Heaven and Earth are gone, (which, I kinda think are still here, since I'm going to bed in a few minutes and that means I have a bed that is on this earth).
OR....you somehow transfer ALL your beliefs to Saulus (Paul) who said the "Law" was done away with due to the new covenant. Holy Moly, how cool is that? So, I guess toilets that flush aren't "pagan" after all, lol.

Sorry, just in the mood for some "parody". No reflection on you, dude.



posted on Sep, 7 2016 @ 10:28 PM
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edit on 7-9-2016 by Matrixsurvivor because: double post



posted on Sep, 7 2016 @ 10:31 PM
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Jesus was a holy blasphemer.
Just an oxymoron for the morning.



posted on Sep, 7 2016 @ 10:33 PM
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originally posted by: halfoldman
a reply to: Matrixsurvivor

Jesus was a holy blasphemer.
Just an oxymoron for the morning.


Um, ok. Not quite following you, but ok. I kinda like Jesus. He (at least) wasn't an a-hole.



posted on Sep, 7 2016 @ 10:34 PM
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a reply to: Matrixsurvivor

No worries.
You're just expanding on the issue of double-standards.
Which I think is one undercurrent of my thread.



posted on Sep, 7 2016 @ 10:39 PM
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Why did Jesus get crucified?

For what did He get the harshest punishment of the time?

He claimed to be God incarnate.

At least according to Christianity.

So His divinity rests on blasphemy according to other forms of monotheism.
One only came long after His "death".

The pagan Romans saw no problem with Him, even according to the Bible.
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posted on Sep, 8 2016 @ 02:52 AM
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Back then it was probably a mixture.
Here a bush, there a bush, oops now we're in a "civilized" town - yucky.
Everybody must share one sponge, and the sewers are full of rats.
Back to the bush.
Mind the scorpions and locusts - an extra snack.



posted on Sep, 8 2016 @ 04:50 AM
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originally posted by: Matrixsurvivor

originally posted by: NOTurTypical
a reply to: halfoldman

Maybe if I decide to follow Jewish law someday I'll get myself a litter box.


Huh...Jesus "supposedly" followed Jewish law. "Supposedly". I'm still waiting for someone to explain how he violated all of it, yet was still "the sinless lamb of God".
Could you possibly enlighten me?


I'm a gentile, I follow the two commands Jesus gave to fulfil the entire law and prophets and the burdens set forth on me by James and Peter in Acts chapter 15.



posted on Sep, 8 2016 @ 04:57 AM
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a reply to: halfoldman
The central points in that Deuteronomy verse are "outside the camp" and "hidden".
In other words, doing it in the middle of the living-room carpet and leaving it there is pagan.
Do you really have a problem with that?



posted on Sep, 8 2016 @ 05:02 AM
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No, I mean if the tribes crapped all over the floor before they wrote that, they probably had a good reason to write it.

But hey, at medieval balls they went behind the tapestries.

Necessity is the mother of invention.
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posted on Sep, 8 2016 @ 05:08 AM
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I was just wondering, then, how something so obvious and practical could be turned into a sort of attack point about Jesus, as the opening post seemed to be attempting.

If you like working along those lines, there's another instruction in Deuteronomy about putting parapets on the edge of flat roofs, so that people don't fall off and kill themselves. That might be useful for your purposes.
Or elsewhere in the Old Testament, it is said that "Abraham knew his wife and they had children" , which was always good for a giggle when we were at school.



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