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The federal government announced plans Thursday to lift a moratorium on funding of certain controversial experiments that use human stem cells to create animal embryos that are partly human.
One issue is that scientists might inadvertently create animals that have partly human brains, endowing them with some semblance of human consciousness or human thinking abilities. Another is that they could develop into animals with human sperm and eggs and breed, producing human embryos or fetuses inside animals or hybrid creatures.
The policy proposes prohibiting the introduction of certain types of human cells into embryos of nonhuman primates, such as monkeys and chimps, at even earlier stages of development than what was currently prohibited.
But the policy would lift the moratorium on funding experiments involving other species. Because of the ethical concerns, though, at least some of the experiments would go through an extra layer of review by a new, special committee of government officials.
Consciousness, thoughts, and emotions are not unique to the human animal. We share them with all other species. So if it is morally problematic to experiment on a chimera containing human cells, then it is wrong — and always has been — to experiment on the dogs, monkeys, and mice now used by the millions in laboratories. Scientists should not be supremacists. They can and must stop harming all animals.
The public has 30 days to comment on the proposed new policy. NIH could start funding projects as early as the start of 2017.
originally posted by: TheKnightofDoom
"Sorry little 5 year old girl dying of some genetic disease we could have found a way to help you but PETA thinks bunnies are more important than you".
Sorry but while I'm a animal lover I love people more and I say cheers to all the animals who have helped us.
Plus they are embryos so what is the problem?.
Also who wouldn't want to be a teenage mutant ninja squirrel?.
originally posted by: ketsuko
...but now we're opening that door wide again by letting companies create custom creatures just to be tests.
originally posted by: tikbalang
a reply to: Bedlam
a simple question; Why?
If you think all of that's a good idea, You are sick pos
originally posted by: Bedlam
originally posted by: ketsuko
...but now we're opening that door wide again by letting companies create custom creatures just to be tests.
No, no, no, you missed it. They want to grow human blood and organs in custom creatures. At first, it'll be organs that are specific to one person. But in time, they want to grow 'generic' livers, hearts, pancreases, lungs, kidneys and whatnot that have no antigen markers at all, and can be transplanted without typing. Critters can be kept clean and free of CMV, herpes, HIV and any other nasty communicables, and there's not a lot of zoonotic diseases you have to worry about. So your new organs will be healthy, uninfectious and ready to implant.
And, of course, the military has LONG been interested in designer chimerae. What if you could grow a grizzly with a human brain? Or a big dog? Or a cetacean? Human brained orcas with something like hands? (fin-gers?) Can you imagine having designer beings raised from birth to be a Navy combat human cetacean? Just swim down and plant mines on subs? Repel human combatants with ease. Take out shipping for fun. Or an Army combat bear? Maybe with a few extra mods...retractile claws on a sort of human hand setup so you can use computer equipment. Bear paws aren't good for that. You'd want human eyes too. But the rest - man. What sort of havoc could you wreak as a grizz-human?
originally posted by: 191stMIDET
If you think all of that's a good idea, You are sick pos
OK I concede, those ideas are great for books and movies etc. But real life? Don't you think messing with nature like that could be problematic? Nature and everything in it except us of course IS PERFECT. Harmony like we could never invent. Evolution, does it better man.
originally posted by: Bedlam
originally posted by: ketsuko
...but now we're opening that door wide again by letting companies create custom creatures just to be tests.
No, no, no, you missed it. They want to grow human blood and organs in custom creatures. At first, it'll be organs that are specific to one person. But in time, they want to grow 'generic' livers, hearts, pancreases, lungs, kidneys and whatnot that have no antigen markers at all, and can be transplanted without typing. Critters can be kept clean and free of CMV, herpes, HIV and any other nasty communicables, and there's not a lot of zoonotic diseases you have to worry about. So your new organs will be healthy, uninfectious and ready to implant.
And, of course, the military has LONG been interested in designer chimerae. What if you could grow a grizzly with a human brain? Or a big dog? Or a cetacean? Human brained orcas with something like hands? (fin-gers?) Can you imagine having designer beings raised from birth to be a Navy combat human cetacean? Just swim down and plant mines on subs? Repel human combatants with ease. Take out shipping for fun. Or an Army combat bear? Maybe with a few extra mods...retractile claws on a sort of human hand setup so you can use computer equipment. Bear paws aren't good for that. You'd want human eyes too. But the rest - man. What sort of havoc could you wreak as a grizz-human?