I'm protestant, my friend is Catholic. Only that he's like so hardcore. I don't get it. Havn't met many fundamentalist Catholics. But we go out for
coffee. We'll be chatting about life. Then he gets into talking about religion, but then it gets SO BAD. Like he practically starts preaching to me.
Also I'm protestant. I know all this. It's not like I don't know any of it. But I guess he figures it's his duty to be all holyer than thou. Just been
wondering what I should say to him next time he does that. Like I could say something like "your preaching to the quire" or something. But I really
don't know. I don't want to offend the guy either as he's a really good friend of mine.
Like for example, he starts talking about "hell". And he just goes on and on. It's nuts. Like he'll say stuff like "ya like it just scares the crap
out of me, that's why I'm trying to be extra good...bla bla bla..." and he talks about it as if he's been there personally. So I'll say to him "well
know one's ever been there and came back with a video to show us so you don't really know what's out there". And he really takes offense to that.
See he'll talk about spiritual subjects as if he's seen them or been there. Stuff like heaven, hell, angels, demons, miracles etc etc. He'll talk
about them as if he's witnessed them first hand. And I'm not saying they're not as described, but I sorta tend to think at time like "we don't really
know what's out there". But that's just my opinion. I still believe in God as it's the most rational explanation to life in my opinion, but I don't
feel it's my place to go preaching at anyone either, or try to convince them that Protestantism has "the goods" exclusively on getting to heaven.
See I'm glad that he's so hardcore if that's what he's into but I don't think it's right that he's trying to almost convert me to Catholisism which is
the last thing I'd ever do. That's insane as far as I'm concerned. That's why the protestants branched off is they were tired of all the non-sense in
the catholic church. But anyway....
I'm just debating what I could say to him next time he goes preaching at me??? Any suggestions???
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I had a similar friendship. Mine didn't involve religion but the interpersonal dynamic sounds the same. As soon as I discovered that this person, who
I thought of and called a friend, truly thought of himself as my superior, the relationship ended.
I don't know you or your situation, but have you ever considered the possibility that your friend is a jerk?
Every time he starts talking about it, change the subject. He'll figure it out soon enough that you don't want to partake in such a discussion. One of
two things will happen: he will either quit talking about it so much, or he'll get angry that you don't want to talk about it as much as he does. If
he gets ticked off, he'll either stop wanting to hang out with you, or he'll confront you about it. If he stops hanging out with you because he
refuses to stop talking about it, you might be better off. If he confronts you, just tell him the truth about how you feel.
I had a similar situation with a friend who wanted to complain about her husband to me, nonstop. I mean, that's all she wanted to talk about. I got
tired of that being the only subject of conversation, so I started changing the subject - a lot. She got the hint and quit talking about it so much to
me. We're still friends.
Just been wondering what I should say to him next time he does that.
"S.T.F.U. or you can drink your coffee by yourself."
Seriously. People who do that need to be told that not everyone wants to hear it and if they can't keep it to themselves, they need to stay home. I'm
polite, but firm the first time I tell them. If they persist, I get very rude, very quickly.
Everyone has the right to believe and worship however they want. So test the friendship. Say look, I'm your friend but you have to stop going on about
religion, its getting to the point that seems to be all your about lately.
If he doesn't stop then he's making his friendship with you dependent on his beliefs.
Detach for a while if he doesn't stop trying to convert you.
This is one of the reasons why I don't prescribe to any religion. It's simply using fear and repetition to brain wash their followers. When you take
notice of the fact there are many different religious beliefs in the world, numerous contradictions, outrageous stories and violent references
contained in "holy scriptures," not to mention the basic fact that some scriptures are "hand picked" to conform to a particular religious belief, it
simply proves all religions are far from being the "Holy Grail" their believers put their trust in.
We need to ask ourselves, would a loving God be behind a cult of religion that promotes divisiveness, creates fear of condemnation and is a catalyst
of world conflicts and violence? It goes against everything each of us can imagine what a peaceful and loving God would represent.
This seems so weird to me.
I am a Protestant that attends a Catholic church because my children are Catholic.
I am not urged by anyone to convert and the church that we attend is fully aware of my being a United Methodist.
I never even hear 'preaching' of the sort that you are talking about even at Mass. They don't talk about hell.
It sounds like you are too protective of his feelings, and not wanting to offend, patiently enduring his tirades. It might be time to be crystal
clear about it and object vocally in the strongest manner. No innuendos, no hinting. If your friendship survives that, then it will go a long way in
eliminating having to unwillingly participate in these sermons.
If not, then you were only an audience. You need to be absolutely Clear that these conversations upset and annoy you. And courtesy dictate that he
suspend his vocal oratories..
If the topic is always the same or if it changes then you need to track down some good source material to share with him . here is a link that might
come in handy . ancientworldonline.blogspot.ca... Try and work into your conversations the need to
understand what the ancient writers and their audience were thinking , their world view at the time .Today is far removed from back then and their
world view was nothing like ours of today . It might take the subject to a place you can both share and discover .
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