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How Likely is a counter-coup to happen in Turkey if a military purge happen?

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posted on Jul, 16 2016 @ 11:12 PM
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If heads start to roll I think that the pressure in the ranks of the military could increase highly.

How do you think soldiers guilty of high treason should be treated?

A) Death to all who participated ( Highly unlikely)
B) Execution of all officers who participated, soldiers kicked out of army without benefits
c) Execution of officers, jail for soldiers
D) No executions, jail for officers and soldiers

Given that Erdogan is a totalitarian tyrant I am pretty convinced that alot of people will die over this, what do you guys think?
edit on 112016Saturdaypm731Sat, 16 Jul 2016 23:12:46 -0500America/Chicagov12 by Golantrevize because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 16 2016 @ 11:23 PM
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a reply to: Golantrevize

Don't know. But how bad is it in any country where the MILITARY gets arrested...by OTHER military...and cops? Holy hookah!
None of this is looking good...scary in fact.

If for whatever reason this breaks the Russian or Syrian borders..or both....better hold on and grab onto to something. Wherever you are.



posted on Jul, 16 2016 @ 11:29 PM
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a reply to: Golantrevize
I choose A. These dudes get the Darwin Award. A few helicopters, a few tanks, and a few hundred men? Someone seriously needs to teach them how to do a coup.

Just kidding about the whole "A" thing.



posted on Jul, 16 2016 @ 11:33 PM
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a reply to: mysterioustranger

For the military to have tried this, they must have thought they would have a lot of support, talks cheap. But it shows a divided country ready to go the way of Syria. More refugees, heading to where its safest. Even if you have to live in a tent you are not gonna get your a## blown off.



posted on Jul, 16 2016 @ 11:35 PM
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a reply to: Aristotelian1

Feels like they did not even try really. Would love to know what these soldiers have been told they were doing.



posted on Jul, 16 2016 @ 11:59 PM
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a reply to: Golantrevize




Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States. (June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 807; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(2)(J), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)


That is US law my friend, don't be a hypocrite. Turkey has abolished the death penalty since 2004 so that means they can't be executed. There is however a debate going on to restore capital punishment laws for treason. Erdogan has suggested the ringleaders could face the death penalty, the 2900 arrested soldiers will face jail time and those that killed civilians will probably also risk a death penalty if proven guilty.

This coup would've succeeded if civilians didn't stood up for their country. The people's reaction proves he is a rightful president. Get over it.




posted on Jul, 17 2016 @ 01:05 AM
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a reply to: anonentity

And no part of any of that is gonna end well. I think the world at large is in for it...hope not.

As a 1st responder myself here in America, we've just been elevated a notch now because of that crap over there and in Paris. And the conventions.

Our police patrols have doubled on the streets and in the air this week. Saw an outside concert the other night on the Detroit River in a park. More than a few as usual fly overs of the coast guard, border patrol, customs.



posted on Jul, 17 2016 @ 02:02 AM
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No he rounded up hundreds of Judges to purge the judicial authorities to pave the way for full blown Sharia. Any military he executes is just for show.



posted on Jul, 17 2016 @ 02:09 AM
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a reply to: Golantrevize

Erdogan's coup d'etat theatre is all about him trying to strengthen his position as Hitler did with the Reichstag fire. He also knows that he, his political party, and Turkey are scheduled by the CIA to become the next Iraq/Libya. There will be lots of bravado and undiplomatic language from Erdogan and his government. He will throw lots of people into jail, torture lots of supposed enemies, and kill a lot of people out of the view of the press.

The Iranians have moved elements of their military to the Turkish border region at Tabriz. There are Russian and Chinese troops in Syria, and Russia is poised to sweep down from the north, and then there are the Kurds, the Armenians, the Greeks, and the Bulgarians who all have an axe to grind with Erdogan.

The only friend Erdogan seems to have is the USA's President Obama, and Erdogan and Obama have that Islamic fantasy narrative that they share.



posted on Jul, 17 2016 @ 02:19 AM
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originally posted by: ElectricFeel
a reply to: Golantrevize




Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States. (June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 807; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(2)(J), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)


That is US law my friend, don't be a hypocrite. Turkey has abolished the death penalty since 2004 so that means they can't be executed. There is however a debate going on to restore capital punishment laws for treason. Erdogan has suggested the ringleaders could face the death penalty, the 2900 arrested soldiers will face jail time and those that killed civilians will probably also risk a death penalty if proven guilty.

This coup would've succeeded if civilians didn't stood up for their country. The people's reaction proves he is a rightful president. Get over it.




So you are saying that because an ill planned coup (most probably staged as there are reports that the enlisted thought they we conducting an excursive) and public outrage determined who is the rightful leader?

Hmmm, with that logic the US Federal Reserve must be a Federal Government agency because until very recently that is what the vast majority of the public believed....

Large groups of people are inherently stupid and easily led.



posted on Jul, 17 2016 @ 03:29 AM
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Intresting times we live in. He wants NATO and the EU to protect him, then flood Europe with muslims. He is also worried becouse his "brother" in the US wont be in power for long



posted on Jul, 17 2016 @ 05:20 AM
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a reply to: ElectricFeel

Erdogan staged his own coup and is now holding Incirlik airbase with 1500 Americans and 50 tactical nukes hostage.



posted on Jul, 17 2016 @ 07:42 AM
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a reply to: Konduit

No he isn't, as the Turkish government closed the base to account for their military aircraft as it is suspected that is where they came from during the coup attempt.

It will be back to normal when things settle and they know they don't have to worry about other conspirators taking their aircraft and trying this again.

m.dw.com...



posted on Jul, 17 2016 @ 07:52 AM
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a reply to: Golantrevize

Answer: (in the context of Turkey)

E.) Given the highest medal for sacrificing their lives in vain for a corrupt and brutal despot bent on furthering Daesh rule in the region by staging his own coup.

And to your question about a 'counter-coup', the more likely scenario would be a "re-coup" when the people realize their grave mistake in supporting an Islamic fanatic dressed in western attire (aka...a wolf in sheep's clothing)!




edit on 7/17/2016 by Flyingclaydisk because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 17 2016 @ 07:54 AM
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a reply to: Konduit

Not exactly. At least not yet anyway.




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