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Thou shalt not steal

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posted on Jul, 11 2016 @ 05:29 PM
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"Thou shalt not steal" One of the ten commandments.. Using this in its own term makes a lot of sense.. Our society has this commandment as one of its keystones relying heavily on your morals as a human.. Using the fundamental aspect of the Christian message of freewill, everyone will do good if given the chance.. Problem is, most people will steal if there is no consequence.. Those who promote the ideal, are the same people who are hiding a divine universal law under the premises of things you cant even begin to imagine..

If you believe in it, why hide?

The most important thing, is not the moral of the message... Its the intent or so called true will of your action.. If you steal cause you want it..
Then the intent will fall under one of the seven sins.. Greed..
If you steal cause you are hungry and cant afford, well then, the intent falls under the Natural law...
He still broke the law and the law is universal. Society and the State have an obligation to always fulfill the natural law to its citizens, if you cant fulfill a universal law as the so called natural law, well then you as a state failed your citizens..




edit on 2016711 by tikbalang because: CAP THE C IN CHRISTIAN




posted on Jul, 11 2016 @ 05:36 PM
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a reply to: tikbalang

Are you talking about a particular incident? It kinda sounds like you are.



posted on Jul, 11 2016 @ 05:38 PM
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a reply to: tikbalang

First, it's Christian, please cap the C. Christ deserves the recognition.

Second, stealing is stealing, no matter the cause. It is a FORGIVABLE sin, even the intent.


edit on 11-7-2016 by NewzNose because: forgot my manners! typo demon attacked.



posted on Jul, 11 2016 @ 05:39 PM
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a reply to: Autorico

Im making reflections on free will and true will.. Morals vs. Intention



posted on Jul, 11 2016 @ 05:41 PM
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a reply to: tikbalang

Ah k cool.



posted on Jul, 11 2016 @ 05:41 PM
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a reply to: tikbalang

I don't recall God providing a footnote on His commandments?



posted on Jul, 11 2016 @ 05:43 PM
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a reply to: NewzNose

So you believe no one would steal, Morals is based heavily on your Good will..



posted on Jul, 11 2016 @ 05:44 PM
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originally posted by: NewzNose
a reply to: tikbalang

I don't recall God providing a footnote on His commandments?


What?



posted on Jul, 11 2016 @ 05:47 PM
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I'm confused about what exactly is being hidden in your post?



posted on Jul, 11 2016 @ 05:48 PM
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originally posted by: tikbalang

originally posted by: NewzNose
a reply to: tikbalang

I don't recall God providing a footnote on His commandments?


What?


In other words, God didn't say "Thou shalt not steal ... unless, of course, thou art really, really hungry, and then it's OK."



posted on Jul, 11 2016 @ 05:49 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

Nothing is hidden in my post, its transparent



posted on Jul, 11 2016 @ 05:51 PM
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a reply to: tikbalang


If you believe in it, why hide?


Say what?



posted on Jul, 11 2016 @ 05:52 PM
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If by transparent you mean lacking substance, I agree.



posted on Jul, 11 2016 @ 05:53 PM
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a reply to: tikbalang

NO, I believe that all people are humans and imperfect, which tempts them to choose to steal. Doing so break God's commandment, but does not terminate His love. "Ask and ye shall receive His forgiveness", kind of thing...



posted on Jul, 11 2016 @ 05:53 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

Well, Natural law, is very basic.. Its Universal.. Stealing is wrong "if" its cause of greed..

If i want?
If i need?



posted on Jul, 11 2016 @ 05:54 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

Precisely.

Thank you.



posted on Jul, 11 2016 @ 05:54 PM
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a reply to: Jaxsmash

You are welcome to put an input, im all ears..



posted on Jul, 11 2016 @ 05:56 PM
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a reply to: tikbalang

Natural law does not supercede God's law.

Stealing is just that...stealing.



posted on Jul, 11 2016 @ 05:57 PM
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a reply to: NewzNose

So you are relying of the choice that he doesnt steal, its still a moral question..

Guilt and shame is realiable tool when raising someone, the meaning why most people dont steal, is cause of guilt and shame.. Not cause of the choice to do right.. If there was no consequence to your actions, " do you believe people would choose to do right? "



posted on Jul, 11 2016 @ 06:00 PM
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originally posted by: NewzNose
a reply to: tikbalang

Natural law does not supercede God's law.

Stealing is just that...stealing.


In society, probably no..But it also depends on the culture of the society..



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